PITMON SAMUEL LINDLEY b. 8 Mar 1808 generously provided by my cousin Jim
Lindley.
PROOF OF THOMAS LINDLEY B. 1779 WAS THE SON OF JOHN LINDLEY B 13 OCT 1747
AND SARAH PYLE B 10 NOV 1750
From
the census records of 1850, Thomas Lindley was born in North Carolina and
the date of his birth would have been 1779 or 1780 as he is listed as 70
years old in 1850.
From this information we can determine the place of birth and the year of
birth. The question then becomes: Who were his parents? I will show John
Lindley b. 1747 and Sarah Pyle b. 1750 were his parents.
There exist at least four different family histories listing the children
of John Lindley and Sarah Pyle.
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Jacob Marion Lindley
His Ancestors and Descendants,
by Milam Myrl
Ewing, Published by D.J.
Mauldin, Tulsa. OK. 1978.
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Montgomery County Texas
Historical Society, et al
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The Quaker Connection,
J.R. Richmond’s compilation of Quaker families.
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The Pyle Family in
America 1642-1980,
By Homer Thorton Pyle and Jan Weaver Pyle. 1981.
Taking these above references one at a time:
- Milam Ewing’s
history lists the children of John Lindley and Sarah Pyle in the old
Quaker dating methods. He, by letters
and his own history, quotes the “ledger book” where the names of the
children were written as being the possession of a Faye Van Hooser
(Hoover) Hughes of Loami, Illinois. Ms Hughes and Mr. Ewing are both
deceased. Several researchers note that the last two children are not in
the ledger. Not quoting them here, but as can be seen in the list of other
older children including Thomas, the list is in the old Quaker method. A
discussion of the Quaker method of dating prior to 1752 is necessary.
Sarah Lindley would have been the author of the ledger listing her
children as mothers generally keep these records. She was a Quaker and
she, though disowned for marrying out of unity that is with out the
consent of the congregation, would have used the old Quaker dating methods
out of respect for her religious upbringing. This is also something
mothers tend to do. The Quakers had a distain for the use of July and
August, as those months are associated with Julius and Augustus Caesar.
The Quakers also believed the monthly names of other months were
sacrilegious also. We thus end up with a ten-month calendar and the months
and days of the week will always be written numerically. The ledger
entries for the older children, including Thomas, and the lack of entries
for the last two in the old Quaker method are totally consistent with
Sarah Pyle and her religion and other researchers. Had Mr. Ewing made up
the dates he would have listed all the children either in the modern
method or the old Quaker method not both.
- The Montgomery
County Texas Historical Society lists the children of John and Sarah
Lindley for an attempted proof that Samuel Washington Lindley, one of the
last two above children and brother of Thomas, was the child of John and
Sarah. The reason this is important is because the Texas Historical
Society is interested in Samuel because his son Jonathan b.1814 d.1836
died at the Alamo in 1836.
They list Jonathan as being born in Illinois and his father Samuel being
born in
South Carolina.
This is correct as John Lindley’s will is probated in South Carolina in
1790.
This information also verifies and confirms Mr. Ewing’s assertions.
- The Quaker
Collection is the work of J.R Richmond who is a Quaker historian
attempting to record all the Quaker families. He has all the John/Thomas/Pitmon
family lines correct and referenced where possible.
- The Pyle Family in
America listed the children of John Lindley and Sarah Pyle Lindley
correctly as the other histories above. Also noted is the lack of proof
for the last two children Samuel and Jonathan. Once again Mr. Ewing’s
history is correct.
Moving on to the Kentucky marriage records, page 125 of
the marriage record lists all of the Lindley marriages between 1805 and
1809.The
marriage partners and the marriage witnesses correspond to the above
researchers conclusions as to brides and the common witnesses are consistent
with siblings.
Where is Sarah Pyle buried? Not in Grant’s tomb. Sarah is
not buried in Kentucky either. New research is now under way by Catherine
Monticue that shows Sarah moving to Illinois with John Lindley her son. A
legal request in the Deed books of Christian County, KY show Sarah Pyle
Lindley stating she is moving and requests all moneys owed her from her
father’s estate to be remitted to her.
She is probably buried in Illinois. As noted above the family ledger was in
the possession of Ms Hughes of Loami, Illinois. This makes sense, as Sarah,
of all things, would take her ledger to Illinois with her, as that is what
moms do. The Christian County tax records also show Sarah and her son
Thomas and his brothers in Kentucky in 1800.
Also noted; the Pyle family is listed in the record and the families are
both on Little River.
A note on resources is necessary. Some of the references
are from “On Line” sources. The “University of Texas Handbook” is now on the
web. The book itself is available for $395 and includes 3000 pages. It can
be accessed “On Line” at the web site listed on the bottom of the reference.
I have included three more references to help verify the work of Mr. Ewing
in his accurate and comprehensive history of the Jacob Marion Lindley family
and the parentage of Jonathan Lindley of the Alamo.
In conclusion too many references and too many interlocking
facts are in play to disprove Thomas Lindley b.1779 is not the son of John
Lindley and Sarah Pyle.
James M Lindley
Bellevue, Washington
Nov 2003
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ames
M Lindley
Lindley/Pyle SAR application
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