Hello from Chicago.

 

I am not related to any of the group.  I am related to Larry Dean through our mothers who were Weaver cousins.

 

Larry has asked me to help him find his Dean ancestors.  The clue to the Dean/Shively connection was that a Shively named his daughter Hannah Dean Shively.  Another clue was that in the household of Richard Dean were 3 Shively boys.  This goes back to 1792 in Kentucky but listed on VA census as KY was part of VA at that time.

 

From the 3 Shively boys, I was led to Larry Shively.  He also said he thought there was some connection to the Deans.

 

So over the past year, I've been tracking and trailing. 

 

The reference to the marriage is

 

YORK COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, 1733-1800: CHRIST EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH

 

The ministers of Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, located in the city of York, began keeping records in 1733. The late F. J. C. Hertzog translated the original entries from German to English in 1919. The records in this database span the years 1733-1800 and include the names of 17,565 individuals who lived in York County. For researchers of German immigrant ancestors who settled in Pennsylvania and their descendants, this database can provide valuable vital statistics not available in other records.

 

Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp. "York County, Pennsylvania, 1733-1800: Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry. com, 2000. Original data: Hertzog, F. J. C. "Records, Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, City of York, York County,
Pennsylvania, 1733-1800." Manuscript by the translator, 1919.

 

_________________________

 

Larry Dean is hiring a researcher to find the will/probate of Michael Shively who died 1778-1780 ish.  If he can find this document, we should clear up a lot of this.

 

Inherent to this research were the Harding family.  There was a Hardin and Harding family and they were part of this group. So the names are spelled Hardin, Harden, Harding and it took a while to sort them out.

 

We know from research in Indiana that Dean had married Hannah Harding.  By following the paper trail, we then knew that Hannah was the sister of Abraham Harding.  They lived next door on Scotts Mill Run to Michael Shively, Sr.

 

Basically,


Michael Shively, the immigrant, landed in Philadelphia in 1738. ( proven by passenger lists and oaths of allegiance.  He was a German and not to be confused with the Swiss Shivelys.)

 

 That daughter listed as born in Maryland cannot be his. And, I don't know where Margaret Smith got that.

 

He married Christina Kessler in York PA. 1743. Proven, church records listed above.

 

Children were born and baptized in York, PA 1746-1759. Proven church records listed above.

 

They moved to Falling Waters which was Frederick Co, VA, now Berkely WVA. 1766 proven by leases from Lord Fairfax.

 

1774, Michael is in Scotts Mill Run which was PA, then VA, then WVA. proven by deeds.

 

1778, Michael sells his land in Berkely to his son Christian. On some of these records, Christiana is mentioned and on others, Hannah is mentioned. Proven by deeds.

 

1778-1780 Michael dies as he drops off records.  WE NEED TO FIND HIS WILL OR PROBATE INVENTORY OR SOMETHING.  THIS IS WHAT LARRY DEAN IS NOW HOPING TO FIND BY HIRING A RESSEARCHER.

 

1788 Sons of Michael Shively, receive inheritance on Scotts Mill Run. This land is adjacent to Abraham Harding, brother of Hannah.

 

1792 Sons of Michael Shively are living with Richard Dean in KY.

 

1803, Shively sons and Deans move to Breckenridge KY.

 

1807-1810, One Shively son and Deans enter land in Indiana.

 

Basically, we can account for 4 sons born to first marriage w/ Christiana.

3 sons born to second wife Hannah Harding.

 

then, Hannah Harding Shively married Richard Dean and we can account for 3 Dean sons.

 

Also, I do not believe that story of Daniel Boone and Shively.  I cannot find Daniel Boone in PA with any of that group.

 

I believe Henry  Shively hooked up with the Bantas in York Co., PA and was at Harrod's Fort and not associated with Danile Boone.  But of course I could be wrong.

 

I think we have to prove the 2nd marriage of Michael to Hannah and also prove Hannah's marriage to Richard Dean.  Since no marriage records exist, we have to find something in the probate records.

 

But, I'll bet the ranch on it.  As these people were all together in Scotts Mill Run at the same time.

 

I'm attaching some of my notes, I hope these don't confuse you, but it may help to see that we are hoping to get to the bottom of this.

 

It will be up to a good researcher to find something in the wills. It is important to note that people thought they were living in PA and it was VA, then became WV.  So, while the land didn't move, the county and state lines moved and it will take some digging to find records, if they exist at all.

 

Amelia

 

We believe

1. Michael Schieffle Shively married Christiana Kessler first and Hannah Harding, second. Then Hannah Harding Shively married Richard Dean. We found the 3 Shively boys born of Hannah and Michael in the same household with Dean and his sons. One of the next generation of Shively's named his daughter Hannah Dean Shively.
 

PDF Version of notes

 

York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 Record
about Christiana Kessler
Name: Christiana Kessler
Description: Daughter
Date: 25 Feb 1797
Prove Date: 20 Feb 1804
Remarks: Michael Kessler. Feb 25, 1797. Executors: George Fackenroth. Cordorus Township. Wife: Magdalena Kessler. Children: Michael and Christiana.

According to records on Ancestry, the Christiana Kessler above married a John Lucas, and she was born in 1824; so she is probably not ours...

 

Descendants of Michael Scheifele Shively

1 Michael Scheifele Shively b: Abt. 1717 in Germany d: Abt. 1780 in Virginia
.. +Christiana Maria Kessler b: Abt. 1725 m: May 17, 1743 in Christ Lutheran Church, York, Pennsylvania d: Bef. 1768

2 John Christian Shively b: October 25, 1746 in Manheim Township, York County, PA (formerly Lancaster County) d: Bef. February 06, 1826 in Jefferson County, Kentucky
............. +Anna Mary Bashore b: February 10, 1755 in Bethel Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania m: 1767 in Berkeley, West Virginia d: in Jefferson County, Kentucky

2 John Shively b: April 14, 1749 in York County, Pennsylvania d: 1784 in Killed by Indians Henry County, Kentucky (we are not sure he was killed by Indians now)

 

2 John Jacob Shively b: July 09, 1751 in York County, Pennsylvania ( WE BELIEVE THIS ONE STAYED IN THE VA/PA AREA)

......... 2 John Heinrich "Henry" Shively b: January 27, 1759 in York County, Pennsylvania d: June 14, 1842 in Syria, Orange County, Indiana
............. +Mary Banta b: March 29, 1767 in Somerset, New Jersey m: March 15, 1783 in Harrodsburg, Mercer County, Kentucky d: December 16, 1844 in Orange County, Indiana

*2nd Wife of Michael Scheifele Shively:

.. +Hannah Harding b: 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey m: 1768 d: in Perry County, Indiana, daughter of Redstone Harding.

2 John Shively b: 1770 d: Abt. 1807
............. +Susannah Hayden b: October 10, 1774 in St Mary's County, Maryland m: October 10, 1794 in Washington County, Kentucky

 2 Jacob Shively b: 1772 in Pennsylvania d: Abt. 1851
............. +Sophia Davis b: 1779 in Maryland m: September 17, 1799 in Green County, Kentucky

2 Michael Shively b: 1776
............. +Nancy Payne b: Abt. 1775 in Virginia m: January 06, 1797 in Washington County, Kentucky d: May 1850 in Kentucky

THEN, Hannah married Richard Dean:

Descendants of Hannah Harding

*2nd Husband of [1] Hannah Harding:
+Richard Dean b: Abt. 1755 m: Abt. 1778 Father: Unknown Dean died Perry Co., Indiana


2 [2] William Dean b: Abt. 1780 Pennsylvania d: Abt. 1830 Perry County, Indiana
+Unknown
*2nd Wife of [2] William Dean:
+Ary Shirley b: Bet. 1780 - 1790 Pennsylvania d: Aft. 1836 Perry County, Indiana Burial: Walker Cemetery, Branchville, Indiana m: 01 June 1807 in Knox, Indiana Father: Unknown Shirley Mother: Delilah Phillips

2 Stephen Dean b: 1786 Virginia
+Susannah Springer b: 1784 Maryland m: 10 August 1815 in Perry County, Indiana Father: Edward Springer Mother: Elizabeth Creager

2 Richard Dean b: Abt. 1788 d: 06 August 1849 Perry County, Indiana
+Mary Dawson b: 1788 Bedford County, Virginia d: Aft. 1855 Perry County, Indiana m: 20 June 1805 in Joseph Smith, Minister, at Mouth of Wolf Creek, Hardin County, Kentucky Father: Jeremiah Dawson Mother: Nancy Agnes Dollard
 

Some of the Germans named the sons Johann Middle name after godfather and grandfather.

Some would have Joseph Middle name and so on.

Some made sure 3 sons were named after wise men: Casper, Balthasar and Melchior.

Some had females Anna Maria, Anna Margaretha, Anna Ludovica and on and on.

I think you have picked up on something here.

Michael Shiefele Shively was German, Lutheran.
Kessler was German, Lutheran

Hannah Harding was Baptist and came from that group who were banned in New Jersey and following Roger Williams into Rhode Island because of religion.

Dean? he's a mystery and fell out of the sky to Scotts Mill Run about 1780. He could have been a British soldier who became American or an indentured servant. He does not connect to any Dean families and this was confirmed by DNA testing.

I would say Dean had no religion. He does not turn up in any of the church records.

But, Michael Shively and Christiana Kessler spoke German, all the records from York, PA are in German. Their sons had to speak German and so also Hannah Harding and Dean had some remnants of German language and then moved into Kentucky.

Hannah Harding Shively Dean turns up in the primitive Baptist records along with many of the Hardings.

Basically PA was settled by many Germans and even George Washington had to learn the language.

And, none of the Shivelys or Deans turn up in the Revolutionary records. We have to assume they did not fight. On the other hand, they may have been Tories as they had leased lands from Lord Fairfax through all of this.

You will read about Lord Fairfax in the stuff I sent you.

Amelia
 

Wasn't Larry Shively descended from John Shively, brother to my Christian, and if so, he has never found anything on his being in the Revolution?

Larry Shively's John was a 1/2 brother to Christian. There was a John in the first marriage to Christiana b. 1749 and a second John b. about 1772.

The John in the Revolution and in the transcription was the one b. 1749, son of Michael and Christina.

As I see it, Michael was the father of
Christian - Your line
John - Rev soldier Tennessee
Henry - Margaret Smith's line
Jacob - most likely the one killed by Indians

and then
John - Larry Shively's line
Michael - another KY line
Jacob - another KY line

these 3 Shively's on 1792 tax list. They are in the household of Richard Dean:

Shively, Jacob
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1 white male over 21, no land

1795 tax list of Jefferson Co. KY - 100 acres on Mill Creek, Jefferson Co. KY
(no count of tithables on this list - just land)

Shively, John
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1 white male over 21, no land

Shively, Michael
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1 white male over 21, 1 16-21, no land
Amelia

The list of land owners:

The name Harding, Hardin, Harden has been a nightmare to sort out.

The Hardin's were French Huegonots and Church of England.
The Hardings were Baptists who were in New Jersey, then forced out to Rhode Island and then one group came to PA.

These two families intermarried which made it more difficult to sort out.

But,
Abraham Harding and Stephen Harding on the list and living at Scotts Mill Run were brothers to Hannah Harding Shively Dean. I found all of them at the Great Bethel Baptist church. They all moved on to Pitman Creek in KY along with the 3 Shively boys. And, found them as active members of the Pitman Creek Baptist Church.

I don't think anyone has sorted out who this Philip Shively was who died in 1841.

After the Revolution and after the Indians were under control, a lot of land grants were given to settle Kentucky. Many went there because PA and VA outlawed slavery.

Many of the Hardings and Hardens had been in Kentucky to stake claims in early 1780s. So, a lot of these land grants were settlement claims. These were Indian fighters.

Because there are these two Shively groups, i.e. Swiss and Michael and because these Hardings, Hardens, Hardins were all in the same areas, it becomes a nightmare.

So, i'm just focusing on Michael and trying to prove he had two wives and 4 sons from Christina and 3 sons from Hannah. One would think there were daughters, but of course, unless we find a will, this will never be known.

With all of the boundary changes in States, counties and so on, will or probate information could be in VA, WV, PA, MD.

Let's hope Larry Dean's researcher finds something.
 

 

Ship Passenger List Saint Andrew Oct. 27, 1738


Palatines, ship Saint Andrew, John Stedman, Master, from Rotterdam, last from Plymouth. - 300 passengers.


Peter Light *
Jost Schumacher
Hanner Hoffer
Stephan Ackerman
Conrad Nagel
Andreas Sin
Reinhart Bene *
Martin Dellinger
Christoph Berger
Martin Schwartz
Wilhelm Risser
Christian Heinrich
Hans Wisler
Peter Bohm
Michael Messer
Johannes Hertt
Henrich Sauer
Christopher Leiss
Jacob Ottiner
Andreas Wacker *
Michael Syder *
Johannes Ambrecht *
Vite Ambrecht *
Johannes Utzman
Johannes Greber
Jacob Beyer
Jacob Stern
Henrich Hoffman
Christian Meyer *
Mattheus Hirt
Lorentz Kriger
Johannes Althauss
Johan Georg Kiehl
Johann Henrich Ertz
Frantz Herman Diel
Manus Sassemanhaus
Johan Jacob Kehler
Johan Georg Grauell
Johan Conrad Bittenbender
Johan Peter Spiess
Joh. Christopher Kintzel
Hans Jacob Kunerein *
Georg Conrad Schreier
Friederich Buckenmeyer
Joh. Arnold Shroder
Michael Hiltenbrandt
Philip Martin Fusel
Georg Bernhart Lauman
Hans Jacob Kattermann
Hans Michael Schyver
Adam Hambrecht
Michael Scheissle
Hans Casper Hindertruther
Hans Jacob Brauss
John Peter Voyzin
Georg Nicolas Mayer
Joahnnes Althaus
Johan christ. Altoch
Bastian Bremer
Berdolf Meyer
Johannes Bosfeld *
Johannes Hoffman
Johannes Mercher
Johan K. Roser
Daneil Bibighaus
Johan Georg Althaus
Conrad Hambrecht
Hans Martin Waltz
Johan Georg Weber
Jost William Blucher

Sick
Johannes Krieve
Casper Hukabach
Viet. Walter
Christ. Wagner
Wesis Vansant
Simon Derrick
Jacob Walter
Johan Schenkel
Anthon Kinter
Samuel Beem
Peter Yosey
Christian Sauder
Georg Grevener
Christian Trewett
Henrich Behn
Elias Balk
Hans Ulrich Katerman
Hans Michael Sheffer
Christian Stein Claither
Thomas Everhard
Hans Philip Smith
Martin Adam Brows
Ulrich Tow
Hans Georg Webber
Johan Veveling
Georg Bibifhaus
Andreas Genberger
Jacob Welsh
Johan Heinrich Hoffman
Johan Jacob Wagner

Lloyd Zachary and Th. Bond, physicians, stated in a certificate, under date of Oct 27, 1738: "We have carefully examined the state of health of the marines and passsengers on board of the ship St. Andrew, Captain Stedman, from Rotterdam, and found a great number laboring under a malignant, eruptive fever, and are of the opinion, they cannot, for some time, be landed in town without the danger of infecting the inhabitants."

Source: A Collection of upwards of Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other Immigrants in Pennsylvania From 1727 to 1776; Prof. I. Daniel Rupp, Second Revised Edition, 1876, Philadelphia; pp.94-97.

We are trying to figure out if Michael's land was in Fayette, PA or Monongalia, WV.

I went to Riley's book on the Hardin/Harding families and found this.

Monongalia County, Virginia

1. Deed Book A., Page 251. April 1796 -- Stephen Harding of State of Kentucky sells by his attorney Abraham Harding 196 1/2 acres on Scotts Mill Run in Monongalia County, Virginia, to John Downer for 20 pounds; land adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin; recorded May 1796.

2, Deed Book B., Page 23. 14 Mary 1796---Abraham Harden ( also Hardin, Harding). and his wife, Sarah Harden sell 702 acres to Coverdale Cole for 875 pounds; 2 tracts on Scotts Mill Run: 1) 400 acres of land granted to said Abraham Hardin by Commonwealth patent bearing date of 1 May 1784; 2) 302 acres in Monongalia County granted to John Shively by patent 8 July 1788 and conveyed by deed to Abraham Hardin on 15 March 1792; recorded September 1796.

This looks like John Shively, s/o Michael became owner of that land in 1788. ( most likely when he reached legal age? Or, was this the settlement that had to be made after the Revolution?) Then, it looks like he signed over the deed to Abraham Harding in 1792. And, then it looks like Abraham sold this in 1796.

So, what is the deal about the power of attorney in 1803 to sell the land? Maybe this sale in 1796 was on contract with Cole and he didn't pay up? NO... Cole remained there. Was there more land other than the 302 acres on Scotts Mill Run?

This also matches when Richard Dean et al moved to KY in 1792 and also when Abraham went to KY in 1796/97.

I followed up on Cole....

ID: I550383799
Name: Coverdale COLE
Given Name: Coverdale
Surname: Cole
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1750
Death: Bet 13 Dec 1830 and Feb 1831 in Monongalia Co., VA
Note:

Coverdale co-administered settlement of Ananias Hudson's estate. On May
1, 1790 Coverdale had Sussex Grant land surveyed in Cedar Creek, Sussex
Co., Delaware, "Cole's Good Intent," adjacent Daniel Davis, Silvester
Debuty and Henry, Joseph and Benjamin Hudson. On June 8, 1795 Coverdale
and Sophia sold this Shuffle Branch Land. He moved to Monongalia Co., VA
by March 2, 1796, when he made a deposition for District Court evidence.
In Cass District, monongalia Co., Coverdale bought nearly 900 acres by
March 1797, of which he and Sophia sold part June 1798 to John Willey, a
former Sussex neighbor, and distributed the rest to their children.

Source: J. Longley

Marriage 1 Sophia POYNTER b: Abt 1740 in Monongalia Co., VA
Married: Bef 3 Mar 1781 in Sussex Co., Delaware

To add to the confusion, I found this about the boundaries of WV, VA and PA.

Monongalia County is known as the mother county for northern West Virginia because many other counties were created from its original territory. The precise number is difficult to determine because the original county's boundaries fell along watersheds which shifted over time. However, at least thirteen West Virginia counties were created in whole, and perhaps as many as eighteen West Virginia counties were created either in whole or in part, from Monongalia County. Moreover, parts of Greene, Fayette and Washington counties in Pennsylvania also were created from the county. The Pennsylvania counties were carved from Monongalia County when the Mason-Dixon line was accepted as defining the borders of Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. That approval process began in 1779, and was officially agreed to by the three states in 1784.

Conclusion: Larry's researcher has to find a probate record of some kind for Michael Shively. 1778-1780 ish.

Amelia

Lord Fairfax usually gave grants of 400 acres. Michael, the immigrant applied for that grant way back in 1762-1763. He sold his land in York, PA. There was a problem with that survey and he wound up with 245 acres in Berkely.

Living close to Michael was the Bernard Boesharr/ Bashore family.

Michael's oldest son Christian married Anna Mary Bashore.

In 1778 Michael signed over acreage to Christian and also to Joseph Mitchell. (I suspect Jos. Mitchell was a relative, maybe a son-in-law?)

Before 1778, Micheal entered land in Scott Mill Run in Fayette, PA. That land was next door to Abraham Harding who had a sister, Hannah Harding.

So, it's easy to see that Michael left Berkely land in charge of his sons. We know Christian was there and also John was there until 1776 and he joined the Army and returned to Berkeley in 1783.

My guess is Michael was sick and was settling his affairs in 1778. He drops off the loop after that.

So, Michael the immigrant had land first in York County PA, then Berkely, VA, then Scott Mill Run or Fayette, PA.

When it says he "made a settlement" ...that means he most likely had lived on the land and improved it. When he could show he lived there and improved it, he applied for a patent or deed to the land.

Well, why did Michael settle on land in PA when he had the land in Berkely? That we don't know.

And, the often asked question is why did these people moved from VA and PA to Kentucky? It appears that had plenty of land and so on?? Slaves. Slavery was outlawed in VA and PA.

Also tobackee. They had overproduced tobacco land, in fact had burned it up in VA.

So the lure of better economics in Kentucky was most likely the reason: tobackee.

I wonder also about religion. Usually after economics comes the religious angle, usually with Germans. And, Germans are opposed to slavery.

then, there were Indian raids in both PA and VA. This might have contributed to the movement west.

So, this search raises a lot of questions. Maybe we can get some answers.

The Michael in that article was the grandson of Philip, son of Michael, the immigrant.

The immigrant, Michael Schiefele or Shively was born in 1717. There is no way we can find his birth and his parentage. Most records in Germany were destroyed during the many wars they had. Someone on the internet has hooked him to a parent with no proof.

I would not doubt that John and Jacob were in Dunmore's war. It appears John joined the Revolution from Berkely and Jacob most likely was scouting with the Hardins in Kentucky. He married in 1800 in Kentucky.

Here is an outline of Philip's family. Yes, Philip also made a settlement in 1774 at Scots Mill Run, most likely with his father. I would guess they were there maybe a few years earlier.

As the generations appear, we're finding all kinds of Johns, Jacobs, Michaels.

And, the problem is, the Swiss group also had the same names.

Descendants of Possibly Philip Shively (son of Michale, brother to Christian?)

1 Philip Shively b: Bet. 1753 - 1757 in Lancaster PA or Berkely WVA d: July 1841 in Monongalia, WV

.. +Appolonia Abba Back b: 1763 in Fayette, Pennsylvania m: 1778 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania d: Bef. 1841 in Monongalia, WV

......... 2 Elizabeth Betsy Shively
......... 2 Polly Mary Shively
......... 2 Catherine Shively b: 1783 in Monongalia, WV d: February 11, 1862 in Marion, West Virginia
............. +Samuel Basnett b: 1776 in Delaware m: December 13, 1802 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: July 06, 1852 in Marion, West Virginia
......... 2 John Shively b: February 05, 1786 in Monongalia, WV d: January 16, 1833 in Rush, Indiana
............. +Theresa Scott b: Bet. 1789 - 1794 in Monongalia, WV m: September 26, 1809 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: 1860 in Paola, Miami County, Kansas
......... 2 Jacob Shively b: February 11, 1787 in Monongalia, WV d: March 04, 1869 in Monongalia, WV
............. +Catherine Pickenpaugh b: January 11, 1794 m: Abt. 1813 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: November 15, 1869 in Monongalia, WV
......... 2 Michael Shively b: 1788
............. +Catherine Toothman b: 1790
.................... 3 Michael Shively b: May 17, 1807 in Monongalia, WV d: April 12, 1900 in Yorktown, Delaware, Indiana
........................ +Kesiah Laboyteaux b: January 04, 1814 in Mt. Pleasant, Hamilton County, Ohio m: May 10, 1832 in Mt. Pleasant, Hamilton County, Ohio d: November 12, 1860 in New Castle, Indiana
......... 2 Philip Shively b: May 10, 1790 in Monongalia, WV d: October 26, 1872 in Henry, Indiana
............. +Margaret Tribbet b: October 21, 1800 in Delaware m: 1824 d: February 21, 1876 in Henry, Indiana
......... 2 Sarah Shively b: 1797 in Monongalia, WV d: Bet. 1841 - 1847 in Henry, Indiana
............. +Benjamin Thomas b: 1798 m: April 11, 1814 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: June 1863 in Henry, Indiana
......... 2 Henry Shively b: 1799 in Monongalia, WV
............. +Matilda Pickenpaugh b: 1814 in Monongalia, WV m: 1838 in Monongalia, West Virginia
......... 2 Abigail Shively b: 1800 in Monongalia, WV d: December 11, 1856 in Poor House, Monongalia, WV
 

 

 

 I will probably only add to the confusion (smile) but will share what I have. I agree with your comments on the transfer of the 302 acres in Monongalia County from Michael Shively to John Shively to Abraham Harding. I am inclined to believe from the information you have found and shared that the first information regarding this tract of land may have had something to do with settlement after the Revolution (when John Shively, heir of Michael, comes into possession of the land). After the 1792 sale to Abraham Harding it appears that John Shively purchased land in Green County, KY and his brothers, Michael and Jacob, lived on land from what I would say were bought with profits from the sale of the Monongalia land.
The power of attorney for Michael and Jacob has been a source of confusion from the first time I saw it. The power of attorney does specify that the land was in Fayette County, PA on GEORGES CREEK. I believe that the Hardens or Hardings owned land on this same creek. I have never been able to figure out what this was "all about".


I did make it to the Newberry last Saturday and looked through the deed indexes for Berkeley County. I believe the researcher that originally shared the information on these deeds was focused only on Michael Shively and Christian Shively. There are deeds for Daniel Shiveley (Shively) and John Shively that will need to be looked at. I am going back to the Newberry this afternoon to order the film for the Deed Books so that we will have copies of the actual deeds. I ordered the film for the wills but I could not find any Shively records. I had also ordered the loose papers (probate) for the letter "S" but there was no Shively info on this film. I had the film for appraisals, inventories, etc and could not find any Shively info. I believe there may be another roll of film related to inventories because the 2 rolls I looked at were from the 1930's Works project. The two rolls of film on inventories I looked at were inventories extracted from the will books.
Larry Shively


On Jul 4, 2006, at 11:22 AM, MBPKelly@aol.com wrote:

We are trying to figure out if Michael's land was in Fayette, PA or Monongalia, WV.

I went to Riley's book on the Hardin/Harding families and found this.

Monongalia County, Virginia

1. Deed Book A., Page 251. April 1796 -- Stephen Harding of State of Kentucky sells by his attorney Abraham Harding 196 1/2 acres on Scotts Mill Run in Monongalia County, Virginia, to John Downer for 20 pounds; land adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin; recorded May 1796.

2, Deed Book B., Page 23. 14 Mary 1796---Abraham Harden ( also Hardin, Harding). and his wife, Sarah Harden sell 702 acres to Coverdale Cole for 875 pounds; 2 tracts on Scotts Mill Run: 1) 400 acres of land granted to said Abraham Hardin by Commonwealth patent bearing date of 1 May 1784; 2) 302 acres in Monongalia County granted to John Shively by patent 8 July 1788 and conveyed by deed to Abraham Hardin on 15 March 1792; recorded September 1796.

This looks like John Shively, s/o Michael became owner of that land in 1788. ( most likely when he reached legal age? Or, was this the settlement that had to be made after the Revolution?) Then, it looks like he signed over the deed to Abraham Harding in 1792. And, then it looks like Abraham sold this in 1796.

So, what is the deal about the power of attorney in 1803 to sell the land? Maybe this sale in 1796 was on contract with Cole and he didn't pay up? NO... Cole remained there. Was there more land other than the 302 acres on Scotts Mill Run?

This also matches when Richard Dean et al moved to KY in 1792 and also when Abraham went to KY in 1796/97.

I followed up on Cole....

ID: I550383799
Name: Coverdale COLE
Given Name: Coverdale
Surname: Cole
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1750
Death: Bet 13 Dec 1830 and Feb 1831 in Monongalia Co., VA
Note:

Coverdale co-administered settlement of Ananias Hudson's estate. On May
1, 1790 Coverdale had Sussex Grant land surveyed in Cedar Creek, Sussex
Co., Delaware, "Cole's Good Intent," adjacent Daniel Davis, Silvester
Debuty and Henry, Joseph and Benjamin Hudson. On June 8, 1795 Coverdale
and Sophia sold this Shuffle Branch Land. He moved to Monongalia Co., VA
by March 2, 1796, when he made a deposition for District Court evidence.
In Cass District, monongalia Co., Coverdale bought nearly 900 acres by
March 1797, of which he and Sophia sold part June 1798 to John Willey, a
former Sussex neighbor, and distributed the rest to their children.

Source: J. Longley

Marriage 1 Sophia POYNTER b: Abt 1740 in Monongalia Co., VA
Married: Bef 3 Mar 1781 in Sussex Co., Delaware

To add to the confusion, I found this about the boundaries of WV, VA and PA.

Monongalia County is known as the mother county for northern West Virginia because many other counties were created from its original territory. The precise number is difficult to determine because the original county's boundaries fell along watersheds which shifted over time. However, at least thirteen West Virginia counties were created in whole, and perhaps as many as eighteen West Virginia counties were created either in whole or in part, from Monongalia County. Moreover, parts of Greene, Fayette and Washington counties in Pennsylvania also were created from the county. The Pennsylvania counties were carved from Monongalia County when the Mason-Dixon line was accepted as defining the borders of Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. That approval process began in 1779, and was officially agreed to by the three states in 1784.

Conclusion: Larry's researcher has to find a probate record of some kind for Michael Shively. 1778-1780 ish.

Amelia


Larry,
Thanks for the update.
My researcher in Fayette Co., (Uniontown), may help us clear up some of this confusion if she can find the probate record of Michael Shively.


But aside from that, I don't know if any of you are as confused as I am regarding the basic geography, present day and historical, of the area we are focussing on. I have asked Vicki to determine exactly where Scotts Mill Run and Georges Creek were (they might have been different designations for the same place) and to establish where the records pertaining to it/them are located. They could be in several different locations depending upon the date of the event recorded. Apparently it was not such a simple matter as turning over all the old records in the old political division to the new one superseding it. And since the area we are searching overlaps state lines, the confusion escalates. As you know, there were major boundary disputes between PA and VA. And, in some instances MD and OH seem to have been involved. In one search a few years ago, Vicki eventually found everything she was looking for in MD even though the client was convinced she should be looking in VA.


An added twist is the fact that CT once had a strip of land in that area extending all the say to present day Ohio. I believe it was called the Western Reserve. And that doesn't even take into account the added confusion when WV became a state.


So, for me, just trying to understand the geographical implications has been a major problem. Hopefully, my researcher will begin to clear this up.


But I can't help but believe that our combined efforts will eventually lead to some major discoveries regarding the Deans and Shivelys. And, since I seem to be getting a day older every twenty-four period that passes, I hope it happens quickly. At this point I have outlived my father, his father, and his father, and have to go back to my g-g-grandfather, John, to find a direct paternal ancestor who lived longer than I have so far. Hopefully I received a healthy dose of his longevity genes, but I'm taking nothing for granted. As the saying goes, there are no guarantees. I am about to celebrate(?) the 50th anniversary of my high school graduation later this fall. And just this past month, two of my old schoolmates who would have attended, died. One a prominent lawyer, and uncle of Tom Cruise, the other a prominent surgeon. And while I'm a bit sad at their parting, I'm at least comforted by the fact that the world has one less lawyer to contend with.


Larry Dean

I received a letter from Margaret Smith. She had some questions about the Hardings, but note this:

"In a list of Rangers in Westmoreland County, PA, during the years 1777-1783, ABRAHAM HARDING, EDEN HARDEN AND JOHN HARDEN, plus HENRY SHIVELY are named. All but Eden Harden are found in Capt. Nicholas Shinn's Company. In the few pages I have from the 1783 tax list for Springhill Twp, there were a number of Capt. Shinn's men. I believe this Henry Shively could be mine."

IF Abraham Harding was involved, Hannah was not far away. And, these years 1777-1783 are important to finding Hannah and Richard Dean and the Shively and Dean boys and possibly a probate record of Michael Shively. Possibly Dean was part of these Rangers. My guess is they were not Continental forces and were entitled to bounty land.

I've tried to find Capt. Shinn on the internet and no luck. We know that Fayette County was created from Westmoreland County, so we do need to find out what we can about this Capt. Shinn. I found only one reference to him which was not helpful.

Larry Shively: Do you have anything on this?

Larry Dean: Looks like this information should be given to Vicki. And, if she does not have anything, then the parent county, Westmoreland may have to be searched.

Amelia

Hi Cat,

I have not seen that particular one, but it's the Bashores for sure. There is just so much out there.

What really needs to be done is for someone to do a complete genealogy of Michael Shively and his descendants. It would involve a lot of research, following the movements of this family year after year, records after record and so on.

I did that in order to write my family genealogy. It took 20 years to document this and write this and publish it.

We can only get so much from what is on the internet and what others have done. In order to do a complete genealogy, the allied families also have to be done.

As far as I can see, there has been work done, but it all needs to be pulled together and then go back and find what's missing.

A big job for someone.

Like Margaret Smith said.....she figured Michael never left Berkeley. Now we find he owned 2 parcels of land: one in Scotts Mill and another in Georges Creek.

Amelia
 

Ladies and Gentleman,
  Here's the latest from Vicki. I have just returned from a weekend trip to Memphis and have not looked very closely at this yet. I don't know where this leaves us at this point. I expect to be receiving her report shorly and we'll decide how to proceed.
  Regards to all,
  Larry D.
July 24, 2006
 
Legacy Books
Larry Dean
3019 Kaye Lawn Dr.
Louisville, KY 40220
 
Dear Larry:
 
Greetings.  Thank you for inviting me to be a part of your Dean and Shively research once again. I have been trying to locate the Georges Creek property records beyond 1803.  I have not been able to come up with an earlier deed.  I searched for a reference from the following resources without locating the Dean or Shively surname: Two Lists of Early Residents in South Western Pennsylvania Those Holding Virginia Grants 1779-1785 & Signers of a Petition to Form a New State Compiled by Helen L. Harriss, CG., This source included a great map illustrating the boundary controversy between PA & VA. Old Springhill by Emma Dean Anderson, (no index), 1938, Sheriff's Deed Books 1785-, Continuance Dockets from the Office of the Prothonotary 1783-, Records of West Augusta & Yohogania County prepared under the direction of the Uniontown Public Library 1936, (John Snively listed). I searched Pennsylvania Marriages prior to 1790.Marriages were not recorded early on in the Fayette County Courthouse. Some PA marriages are published in the Second Series of the Pa Archives Harrisburg Volume II.
 
A search was conducted of Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files Vol. I: A-E Abstracted by Virgil D. White.  Westmoreland Co. Pa. in 1783 compiled by Shirley McQuIlis copyright 1983 by SW Genealogical Services lists Benjamin Dean Richard Dean, Christopher, John and Phillip Shively as early inhabitants there. As I mentioned, I have located references to Scott's Mill Run and I have copies of early maps to send to you.  References will be from The Monongalia Story, A Bicentennial History by Earl L. Core, McClain Printing Co. Parsons, West Va.   Westward of Ye Laurel Hills 1750-1850 by Helen Vogt, 1976 has a sketch of a watermark concerning Jacob Shively estate sale bill for May 26, 1760.  Court records at West Virginia University Library in Morgantown.
 
The 1772 Tax Assessment Rolls Taxes Due to Bedford County By Residents of Westmoreland County, which was Separated From Bedford County in 1773 including Territory which later became Fayette County in 1783 part of Springhill, Tyrone and in 1784 part of Rostraver, Springhill Twp. page 48 lists John Shively.
 
The 1798 Direct Tax List or Window Tax List of Fayette County, Pa, micro-film roll 23 Second Assessment of the District Vols. 697-702, National Archives Roll 372-23 Washington 1962. Lists John Shively in a log cabbin 20 by 26 feet, and a John Dean is listed as an occupant of a log cabbin and Sally Simpson is the owner.
 
The Index to Fayette Wills by Bob and Mary Closson, (you may have this information) Dean, Caleb   1842

     Edward 1898
     John 1849
      John   1842

        Martha  1888

           Zadvek? 1890.

 

John Shively was the Tax Assessor in Springhill Twp. Fayette County during the 1819s into the 1820s.  I will follow up on tracing back his property records and the acquisition of the property.  He was also a farmer. I am also sending you the Index to the Colonial Records compiled by Dr. Mary Dunn.  The index lists Deans as well as Shivelys.  I have searched numerous unpublished sources in the Pennsylvania Room hoping to locate Revolutionary War references. I will continue to check for County records for you.
 
Once again, thank you.
 
Sincerely,
 
Vicki J. Leonelli

 

 

July 17, 2006

Dear Margaret,

I’ve been out of town or would have answered your letter sooner. So, I’ll attempt to answer your questions.

Yes, we knew that the names HANNAH and CHRISTIANA were on the deeds in 1778. This was just another bit of evidence that Hannah Harding was a wife of Michael Shively.

Just this past few days we became aware that Michael Shively owned another piece of land. This land was on Georges Creek in Fayette County, PA. In 1803, Michael and Jacob Shively from Green County Kentucky gave power of attorney to William Kelso to sell that land. We are following up with the researcher to see if she can go back and find when Michael Shively bought that land.

So, Michael owned land in York County, PA, Berkely, WVA ( originally Frederick Co, VA), Scotts Mill Run, Mononagalia and also Georges Creek in Fayette, PA. We know when the York land was sold, also the Berkely land in 1778, the Scotts Mill Run land was sold in 1792 to Abraham Harding by John, son of Hannah and now we find the Georges Creek land sold by sons Michael and Jacob, sons of Hannah. The three sons of Hannah were listed as heirs of Michael Shively. What the researcher needs to find is a will or probate inventory or something regarding Michael Shively. This should definitely be the one piece of primary evidence needed to prove all of this.

It appears Michael had three wives: 1) mother of Dorothea, born in Maryland, 2) Christiana Kessler, mother of Christian, John, Jacob, Henry and Phillip and 3) Hannah Harding, mother of John, Michael and Jacob. It is strange that sons of this last marriage had the same names as the children of the 2nd marriage, but they also may have had middle names. I’m also including Philip as a son of Michael as the DNA results from descendants of Philip match those other descendants of Michael Shively.

I hope Catherine Monticue sent you the transcription of the Revolutionary pension application of John, son of Michael and Christiana, born 1749. I’ve mailed in a request to the Tennessee State Archives to find the transfer of the land that John Shively bought. We now know that this John bought Ocoee Indian land in Tennessee around 1841 and 1842, Bradley County, Tennessee and there are two deeds. We know nothing about this John and hopefully I can find a wife and descendants. He was on the 1830 census and no later census. But, we know he was alive in 1845 at age 95.

This John Shively was also involved in a law suit with Peter Light (Leight) in Berkely, but I don’t have the details. However, if John Shively owned land in Ocoee, Bradley County, Tennessee, there has to be a will or probate inventory and action after he died or, a transfer of land. If and when I get more information, I’ll make sure you get it.

I’m enclosing a printout of what I have on the Hardings. On page 2 is a map of the Baptist Churches in that area. The Hardings were originally from New Jersey and were part of that primitive Baptist group. They moved into Rhode Island to escape from the Church of England. One of the sons, John Redstone Harding, moved his family to Redstone area, Pennsylvania about 1762. I’m guessing that’s how he got the nickname. To sum it up, one branch of the Harding family moved to Redstone. From there they purchased more land. And all eventually wound up in Kentucky.

You may be wondering why I’ve been looking at churches. I have had good luck finding my ancestors through Church records. I was hoping by checking out the possible religions of this group, I may find more. Michael Shively was Lutheran and the rest of these folks were far removed from established religions. But, I have to conclude that by the time these folks got to Kentucky, they were either Baptist or Methodist. We also have to consider that the Shively’s understood and spoke German. Thus, even the grandchildren of Michael had to have some knowledge of the language. But, that has not led me to anything either.

You mentioned in your letter a Capt. Nicholas Shin’s Company of Rangers. I’ve tried to find this man in my internet sources and can find nothing. I’m enclosing an envelope. Please send me what you have on the company of Rangers and I’ll track more of this down. This is a clue which needs to be pursued.

The report I’m sending you is what is in my computer. No attempt has been made to make sure it is acceptable English language. It’s just a bunch of data. And, I have a feeling, you’ve seen most of this. This report does show how Larry Dean is related. And Larry has been the one stirring up the pot, determined to find his ancestors before they came to Kentucky.

Thanks for reading all this. Hope you are well and cool.

July 17, 2006

Dear Margaret,

I’ve been out of town or would have answered your letter sooner. So, I’ll attempt to answer your questions.

Yes, we knew that the names HANNAH and CHRISTIANA were on the deeds in 1778. This was just another bit of evidence that Hannah Harding was a wife of Michael Shively.

Just this past few days we became aware that Michael Shively owned another piece of land. This land was on Georges Creek in Fayette County, PA. In 1803, Michael and Jacob Shively from Green County Kentucky gave power of attorney to William Kelso to sell that land. We are following up with the researcher to see if she can go back and find when Michael Shively bought that land.

So, Michael owned land in York County, PA, Berkely, WVA ( originally Frederick Co, VA), Scotts Mill Run, Mononagalia and also Georges Creek in Fayette, PA. We know when the York land was sold, also the Berkely land in 1778, the Scotts Mill Run land was sold in 1792 to Abraham Harding by John, son of Hannah and now we find the Georges Creek land sold by sons Michael and Jacob, sons of Hannah. The three sons of Hannah were listed as heirs of Michael Shively. What the researcher needs to find is a will or probate inventory or something regarding Michael Shively. This should definitely be the one piece of primary evidence needed to prove all of this.

It appears Michael had three wives: 1) mother of Dorothea, born in Maryland, 2) Christiana Kessler, mother of Christian, John, Jacob, Henry and Phillip and 3) Hannah Harding, mother of John, Michael and Jacob. It is strange that sons of this last marriage had the same names as the children of the 2nd marriage, but they also may have had middle names. I’m also including Philip as a son of Michael as the DNA results from descendants of Philip match those other descendants of Michael Shively.

I hope Catherine Monticue sent you the transcription of the Revolutionary pension application of John, son of Michael and Christiana, born 1749. I’ve mailed in a request to the Tennessee State Archives to find the transfer of the land that John Shively bought. We now know that this John bought Ocoee Indian land in Tennessee around 1841 and 1842, Bradley County, Tennessee and there are two deeds. We know nothing about this John and hopefully I can find a wife and descendants. He was on the 1830 census and no later census. But, we know he was alive in 1845 at age 95.

This John Shively was also involved in a law suit with Peter Light (Leight) in Berkely, but I don’t have the details. However, if John Shively owned land in Ocoee, Bradley County, Tennessee, there has to be a will or probate inventory and action after he died or, a transfer of land. If and when I get more information, I’ll make sure you get it.

I’m enclosing a printout of what I have on the Hardings. On page 2 is a map of the Baptist Churches in that area. The Hardings were originally from New Jersey and were part of that primitive Baptist group. They moved into Rhode Island to escape from the Church of England. One of the sons, John Redstone Harding, moved his family to Redstone area, Pennsylvania about 1762. I’m guessing that’s how he got the nickname. To sum it up, one branch of the Harding family moved to Redstone. From there they purchased more land. And all eventually wound up in Kentucky.

You may be wondering why I’ve been looking at churches. I have had good luck finding my ancestors through Church records. I was hoping by checking out the possible religions of this group, I may find more. Michael Shively was Lutheran and the rest of these folks were far removed from established religions. But, I have to conclude that by the time these folks got to Kentucky, they were either Baptist or Methodist. We also have to consider that the Shively’s understood and spoke German. Thus, even the grandchildren of Michael had to have some knowledge of the language. But, that has not led me to anything either.

You mentioned in your letter a Capt. Nicholas Shin’s Company of Rangers. I’ve tried to find this man in my internet sources and can find nothing. I’m enclosing an envelope. Please send me what you have on the company of Rangers and I’ll track more of this down. This is a clue which needs to be pursued.

The report I’m sending you is what is in my computer. No attempt has been made to make sure it is acceptable English language. It’s just a bunch of data. And, I have a feeling, you’ve seen most of this. This report does show how Larry Dean is related. And Larry has been the one stirring up the pot, determined to find his ancestors before they came to Kentucky.

Thanks for reading all this. Hope you are well and cool.

 

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Sorting out the Hardings from the Hardins has been a monumental task for Robert Shean Riley in his book,

Marc Hardouin ( Mark Hardin I) and His Descendants. The following report used his research. What the

following report will show is Shively and Dean ancestry which goes back to John “Redstone” Harding. John

was called this as he came to Pennsylvania and settled near Redstone Fort.

 

Descendants of John Redstone (Captain) Harding

 

Generation No. 1

 

1. John Redstone (Captain)4 Harding (Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born 1717 in Warwick,

Rhode Island, and died 1783 in Pleasureville, Green County, Kentucky. He married Sarah Mary Moss Bet. 1740 -

1745. She was born 1722, and died in Pleasureville, Green County, Kentucky.

 

John was the son of Captain Stephen Harding and Sarah Elizabeth Knight. According to genealogies available, John was the only son who moved west to the Redstone area of Pennsylvania about 1762. It is also mentioned that the Hardings dropped the "g" and the name became Hardin. This has been disputed. The Hardin family, descended from French Huguenot, Marc Harduoin, settled in Stafford County, Virginia in 1716. Both Harding and Hardin families eventually were in the same areas of Pennsylvania and Kentucky and intermarried. This has caused great confusion in sorting out these two families. Robert Shean Riley's book on these families has done the sorting.

 

The Hardings were Primitive Baptists. The Hardins were Church of England, initially. During and after the Revolution, most patriots no longer worshiped at the Anglican Church. Thus the rise of Methodism and Baptist Churches in Kentucky appeared after these families migrated out of Pennsylvania and Virginia. The historian Veech has concluded that the basic reason for the movement of the Hardings, Hardins and their allied families was the laws that forbid slavery in Pennsylvania. There was also the issue of taxation as they were all being taxed to pay for the Revolution. They not only fought in the Revolution and afterwards were expected to pay for it.

 

It has been remarked that after all the fighting and deprivation during the Revolution and the Indian uprising had been resolved, these folks chose to go to Kentucky to again fight the Indians and put up with extreme hardships and take their slaves and money with them.

 

The name is spelled Hardin in these church records, but it's the Hardings.

 

Great Bethel:

 

I copied all the minutes up to 1802. Basically, John Redstone Harding was an early member. By April of 1775, he was questioning the doctrine of "election" vs. "free will" and suspended, this went on until he was excommunicated on July 18, 1777. He was also accused of profane language at one of the meetings. March 14, 1778, he requested to be admitted back That was denied. Capt. John Harding wrote a letter in 1784 and the clerk was to answer it. But don't know what was in the letter.

 

15 Sep 1781, Abraham Harding was baptized. his wife Sarah is received Sep 14, 1782. Sarah is baptized in Aug 1783 along with Mary Payne, Samuel Payne, and Roberson. Mary Harding, wife of Thomas is mentioned, Wades are mentioned. Also Jolley. All of these are related to Hardings, one way or another.

 

Dec 20 1783: " Taken under consideration further it appears expedient for Stephen Hardin to move his membership from the Forks of Cheat by a letter. No object against it. Also received to fellowship of this Church, Johnathan Paine being before baptized and also Elizabeth Hardin." 2 3

 

What I like about this map is that we can see just where these people lived. Michael Shively was in the area.

 

Isaac Sutton was the pastor of Great Bethel and mentioned as part of the Association of Baptists and in the area are Forks of Cheat, Turkey Foot, Mt. Moriah in George Creek, Goshen, Redstone and so on. It also appears the Hardings had troubles in each of these churches and representatives would be sent from one church to another to make peace.

 

To some degree, there were also problems with the Pitman Creek Church in Green County, Kentucky.

 

While I'm reading these church minutes, I remember there was a war going on and most of the Hardings were involved in it, along with most of the men in the area. Also, many of them had gone on to Kentucky to explore and stake out land. Thus, the long list of women members. And, maybe most men didn't attend anyway.

 

Also, the constitution of this church was based on the Regular Baptist Confession of faith adopted by the Philadelphia Association in 1742 and that form of church government and discipline. The Hardings believed in baptism of emersion and laying on of hands and brought their faith with them from New Jersey and Rhode Island. John Redstone Harding would have had problems with this group as he was from the Old School Baptists from 1707 and Roger Williams and that group and they did not believe that man had a free will to be saved, but was elected and only those who were elected could be saved. And, that is what the Baptists in early Pitman Creek also believed. So, it's easy to see how election and predestination go hand in hand.

 

Letter to Governor:

Author Hardin, John.

Title John Hardin, Redstone, [to] Col. [William] Davies.

Publication May 20, 1782.

Material 2 p.
 

Gen. note Part of a collection of letters and other documents received in the Governor’s Office during the period June 29, 1776-Nov. 30, 1784.

Summary Re obtaining boats for moving the stores down river.
 

Subject -Geographic Virginia -- History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 -- Sources.

Genre/Form Letters.

Added Entry Davies, William, Col.

Added Entry Virginia. Governor’s Office. Letters received.

What I got from the Great Bethel minutes is that Capt. John Redstone Harding showed up at meetings, swearing and telling Rev. Isaac Sutton that he was preaching heresy. He turns up in another church's records. With all his faith, he had to belong to one of them. His son, Abraham was a member of this church. His son, Rev. Stephen became a member and they all went to Kentucky anyway.

 

Children of John Harding and Sarah Moss are:

 

2 i. Amy5 Harding. She married George Dawson.

Notes for Amy Harding: Not sure that Amy belongs here, but did find this listed on ancestry.com.  It is better to include Amy as more evidence may appear later.

 

+ 3 ii. Hannah Harding, born 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died in Perry County, Indiana.
 

+ 4 iii. Mary Mollie Harding, born November 05, 1747 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died June 25, 1833 in Washington County, KY.
 

+ 5 iv. Robert Harding, born 1748 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died 1821 in Fayette County, Indiana.
 

+ 6 v. Stephen Harding, born 1749 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died February 25, 1815 in Green County,

Kentucky.

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+ 7 vi. John Harding, born 1753 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey.

+ 8 vii. Abraham Harding, born September 17, 1754 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died May 25, 1818 in Green

County, Kentucky.

+ 9 viii. Thomas R. S. Harding, born January 08, 1756 in Elizabeth, New Jersey; died June 20, 1840 in Rev.

War Vet, Green County, Kentucky.

+ 10 ix. Eden Harding, born 1758 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died January 04, 1846 in Marion County, Indiana.
 

Generation No. 2

 

3. Hannah5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died in Perry County, Indiana. She married (1) Michael Scheifele Shively 1768, son of Progenitor Scheifele. He was born Abt. 1717 in Germany, and died Abt. 1780 in Berkeley County, Virginia or Scotts Mill Run. PA or Georges Creek, PA. She married (2) Richard Dean 1780. He was born Abt. 1750, and died

Aft. 1810 in Perry County, Indiana.
 

Pitman Creek Primitive Baptist Church Minutes, Green County, Kentucky:
 

Hannah Dean listed on pages 1,5,12,21 as a member of the church. On Friday April 1, 1803, Hannah requested a letter of dismission. This date coincides with the Dean family moving to Breckenridge County, KY and from there to Perry County, Indiana.
 

One of the ministers at Pitman was John Mulkey. He separated from this group and formed his own church. The Baptists at Pitman Creek believe in Predestination. In the minutes, I'm finding foot washing, meeting on Saturday and so on. So, I think Pitman was a combination of several beliefs: Seventh-Day Baptists, who worship on Saturday instead of Sunday; Primitive Baptists, who conduct foot-washing ceremonies as part of each celebration of the Lord's Supper; Free-Will (or Free) Baptists, who stress man's freedom to choose salvation or perdition; Predestination Baptists, who cling to Calvin's doctrine of the double election; and many other varieties. What is Calvin's doctrine? — earnest, austere, suspicious of the comforts and pleasures of this world, fired with a great sense of rectitude and a conviction

of their own "election" as children of God.

 

Arrived In Port of Philadelphia, Ship St. Andrew, arrived from Rotterdam 27 Oct 1738. Name spelled as Scheyvel, Michael, Qualifed 27 Oct 1738. This means he took the Oath of Allegiance to the British Crown and can be considered a British colonist.

 

The Shively researchers have copies of some deeds. Following is some of what we have:

 

Land Records for Michael Shively and Christian Shively (later of Louisville, Jefferson Co, KY) of Falling Waters, Berkeley County, Virginia in Berkley County Deed Books excepting one Frederick County Land Grant
 

1. 1762, Michael Shively, assignee of John and Daniel Kennedy 245 acres 11 Oct 1766 date of Grant Frederick Co, VA Bk 2, Page 14
 

2. 20,21 Mar 1778 Michael Shively and Hannah his wife to Christian Shively Lease and Release Bk 4, pp 453-455 100 acres of the above 245 acre tract

Note: here the mention of Hannah Shively
 

3. 2-May-1778 Michael Shively and Christina his wife to Joseph Mitchell

Leave Book 5, pages 23-24 145 acres of the 245 acre tract

(OK, now we are confused because Michael's wife is Christina)
 

4. May 1778 Michael Shively and Christina his wife to Mitchell Joseph

Release Book 5, pages 24-25
 

5. 15-Oct-1778 Christian Shively to Mitchell Joseph

Lease Book 5, Page 583 100 acres purchased from Michael Shively and wife, Hannah
 

6. 16 Oct 1778 Christian Shively and Mary his wife to Joseph Mitchell Release Book 5, pages 584-585

 

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View Record MICHL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

 

NOTE: I've been reading the REVOLUTIONARY War pages. I found a statement on one pension document for Thomas Harding, brother of Abraham.

 

"Abraham's widow, Sarah, in 1832 testified that she lived 2 and ½ miles from the junction of the Cheat and Monongalia Rivers. She testified that the soldier Thomas Harding usually lived at her house between his services.
 

She thought they lived in PA. He began his services in 1777. " So, we now know that the land in question or Scotts Mill Run was 21/2 miles from Cheat/Monongalia River Forks.

________________________________________

 

From Larry Shively:

 

You are doing very well. Yes by 1810 my John Shively was deceased and his widow, Susannah Hayden Shively, and married for a second time to John Shepherd. Supposedly earlier researchers had written to Fayette County to follow up on the Power of Attorney concerning this land in Fayette County. It appears that the Power of Attorney was

recorded in Fayette County but no one has been able to find any further information regarding this tract of land.

 

From the Monongalia County, WV Deed Book 125, Page 178 we have a deed for my John Shively who sold land to Abraham Harden which was land that Michael Shively, deceased had owned. "This indenture made the 15th day of March in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety-two between John Shively of Nelson County and State of Virginia (later KY) of the one part and Abraham Harden of Monongalia County and state afsd of the other part.......

The land contined 302 acres by survey given to John Shively (more info following)......Neighbors mentioned in this transaction include Thomas Dawsons land on Scotts Mill Run....Abraham Harden......The "survey" mentioned was given to John Shively on 8th day of July 1788 for 302 acres "unto John Shively heir at law of Michael Shively deceased a certain tract or parcel of land containing 302 acres .....being in the county of Monongalia on Scot's Mill run waters adjoining lands of Abram Harding and his settlement made in 1774.........

From the sale of this land I believe that my John Shively then purchased land in Green County, KY for his brothers Jacob and Michael Shively. In Green County Deed Book 3, Page 102 a record is made that John Shively purchased 250 acres. John Shively sold later 100 acres of this to Robert Hay. John gave bond to Jacob Shively for the remaining 167 acres which was then sold to Aaron DAWSON (interesting how the name appears in KY and back in Monongalia County). Larry The following indicates that Michael Shively also owned another section of land on Georges Creek, Fayette, PA.

 

Larry Dean’s researcher is trying to follow up on this, hoping it leads to a probate record for Michael Shivey.
 

(July 2006, Kelly).

 

10 August 1803

Michael Shively & Jacob Shively, heirs of Michael Shively, deceased, both of green County, appoint William Kelso of Breckinridge County, their power of atty to sell & transfer a tract in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, on the waters of George's Creek.
 

Another transaction involving Jacob and Michael Shively, 18 Jan, 1810. John Shively, deceased.
 

URL (Click on link) http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/GetLONN.pl?first=276&last=&g_p=GN&collection=NN

 

Grant

Title Shively, Michael.

Publication 11 October 1766.

Other Format Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels 288-311.

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Note Location: Frederick County.

Description: 245 acres at the Yellow Springs on Potowmack River adjoining Danl Kennedy.

Source: Northern Neck Grants N, 1766, p. 276 (Reel 295).

Original survey exists.
 

Part of the index to recorded copies of land grants issued by the agents of the Fairfax Proprietary between 1690 and

1781 and by the Commonwealth between 1786 and 1874. Original and recorded surveys are also indexed when

available. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.

 

Subject - Personal Shively, Michael. grantee.

Kennedy, Danl.

Subject - Topical Land titles -- Registration and transfer -- Virginia -- Frederick County

Subject -Geographic Frederick County (Va.) -- History -- 18th century

Genre/Form Land grants -- Virginia -- Frederick County.

Surveys (land) -- Virginia -- Frederick County.

Added Entry Northern Neck Land Office. Northern Neck grants, 1690-1874.

Northern Neck Land Office. Northern Neck surveys, 1697, 1722-1781.

Library of Virginia. Archives.

System Number 000861212

 

The land in Berkely was a grant from Lord Fairfax.

Thomas Fairfax, 6th Lord Fairfax of Cameron, the friend and patron of George Washington's early life, born in Leeds Castle, Kent, England, 1692; died at his seat at Greenway Court, Clarke County, Virginia, December 12, 1781; son of Thomas Fairfax, 5th Lord Fairfax of Cameron, and of Catharine, daughter of Thomas Culpeper, 2nd Baron Culpeper of Thoresway. Various place names in Northern Virginia are named after him—most notably Fairfax County and Fairfax City.

 

Educated at Oriel College, Oxford from 1710 to 1713, and afterwards held a commission in the Blues. A contributor to Addison's Spectator. Succeeding to the title and to the family estates in Virginia, inherited from his mother, between the Rappahannock and Potomac Rivers, and a great portion of the Shenandoah Valley, he came to Virginia in 1735-1737 to inspect and protect his lands. Returning in 1747 he first settled at Belvoir ; later he moved to the Shenandoah Valley in 1752, fixing his residence at Greenway Court, a few miles from Winchester. Here he lived in a style of liberal hospitality, frequently indulging in the diversion of the chase. He served as county lieutenant and as justice of the peace.

 

Lord Fairfax was the only resident peer in colonial America. In 1748, he made the acquaintance of George Washington, then a youth of 16, and, impressed with his energy and talents, employed him to survey his lands lying west of the Blue Ridge. Though a frank and avowed Loyalist, he was never insulted or molested by the Whigs. His title and immense domain, consisting of 5,282,000 acres (21,380 km²), descended to his only surviving brother, Robert, 7th lord, who died at Leeds Castle, England, in 1793; but, as the domain was in possession of Lord Thomas during the American Revolution, it was confiscated during the hostilites.

 

Preceded by: Thomas Fairfax Lord Fairfax of Cameron

Succeeded by: Robert Fairfax

 

Berkeley County is the second oldest county in West Virginia. Created in 1772 from the northern third of Frederick County Virginia and named for Norbourne Berkeley, (Baron Boutetort) Colonial Governor of Virginia from 1768 to 1770.Martinsburg, the county seat, was founded in 1778, by General Adam Stephen who named it in honor of Colonel Thomas Bryan Martin, a nephew of Lord Fairfax. It was incorporated by act of the legislature By Robert B. Van Atta FOR THE TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, February 6, 2005.

 

Virtually all of Western Pennsylvania was Westmoreland County when it was formed in 1773 from Bedford County.  However, the population was so scattered that the distances involved did not immediately result in the concern of large masses of people. Those who lived here were more concerned with Indians, food and shelter, and later the Revolution.

 

Washington County was the first created from original Westmoreland, in 1781, to include the area of Southwestern Pennsylvania south of the Ohio River and west of the Monongahela. Washington's formation came at a time when agitation was increasing to form a new county in what became the Fayette area. Many of the citizens of Westmoreland were in older communities of Brownsville and Uniontown.

 

The state General Assembly, on Sept. 26, 1783, passed an act in which the preamble noted "the great inconvenience they (Fayette inhabitants) labor under by reason of their distance from the seat of judication (of Westmoreland) and which created a county named and hereafter to be called Fayette County."

 

Five of Westmoreland's early townships made up Fayette -- Tyrone, Springhill, Menallen and parts of Donegal and Rostraver. The original Fayette did not include any area east and northeast of the Youghiogheny River, which was added by another act, passed Feb. 17, 1784. The first term of Fayette's courts was held the fourth Tuesday of December

1783 in the schoolhouse in Uniontown.

 

One of the new county's early problems was the rebelliousness of citizens of Menallen Township and the Georges Creek area over taxes. On the night of June 2, 1784, three men with pistols entered the house of Springhill Township tax collector Phillip Jenkins, beat him and took his tax records.

 

Indian influence Indians figured conspicuously in Southwestern Pennsylvania history from the time of the earliest settlement in the 1750s until about 1794, when most troubles dropped off. Some of their activities were peaceful, and many of the depredations against the pioneers were inspired by the French and later the British during and after the

Revolution.

 

A major positive note was the signing of the Fort Stanwix treaty in the fall of 1768, in which the Indian confederation gave the Penns the land in Southwestern Pennsylvania. This enabled the Penns to open land offices in the spring of 1769 through which settlers could acquire lands.

 

The Indian tribes or nations most closely associated with Pennsylvania history were the Delawares, and secondly the Shawnees. The Iroquois and Senecas also were active at times, the Senecas most notably in the British-inspired burning and destruction in 1782 of Hanna's Town, the original Westmoreland County seat. The Sewickley Indians were Shawnees.

Oddly enough, the Fayette County area seemed to suffer appreciably less from Indian problems than most adjoining ones, especially Greene and northern Westmoreland. Kittanning in the 1750s was still a Delaware Indian town, while the Shawnees had three towns on the Allegheny and Kiskiminetas rivers, including the later site of Springdale.

 

Punxsutawney was another Indian town, named for a Shawnee chief.  Indian paths were forerunners of later pioneer trails and eventual roadways. This was due at least in part to the fact that Indians, in forging their paths, took rather direct routes, avoided water and heavy underbrush, and stayed away from steep climbs where possible.

 

Excerpted from Robert B. Van Atta's "Vignettes" columns of Feb. 6, 1983 and 1994.  Robert B. Van Atta retired as history editor of the Tribune-Review in January 2004.  Important Events in Hampshire County during the 1700s and 1800s At that time, Lord Fairfax realized that he had an opportunity to earn income by laying off his land in the area into lots and requiring those residing there to pay him for the land or to pay rent. In 1748, Lord Fairfax sent a surveying party, led by James Genn and including 16 year-old George Washington, to survey his lands along the Potomac and South Branch Rivers. Washington spent three summers and falls surveying Lord Fairfax's estate, including present-day Hampshire County. Washington's diary indicated that he was in present-day Romney on October 19, 1749. Oral

traditions claimed that Washington laid present-day Romney out into lots at that time, but written records credit James Genn for surveying and laying out the town.

 

Because he was a British citizen, all of Lord Fairfax's land holdings were confiscated by the state of Virginia at the close of the American Revolutionary War (1776-1783). The state then auctioned off the land. Between 1788 and 1810, a total of 1,986 land entries were recorded in Hampshire County. As settlers continued to enter the county, the state decided to build a state road from Winchester to Romney, passing by Capon Bridge and Hanging Rocks. The road's construction was a boom to local economic development as several stage lines began operations, providing settlers more ready access to eastern markets. In 1796, a post office, headed by John Jack, opened in Romney Call Number 35559
 

Author Smith, Margaret E. Shively, comp.

Title Shively family genealogical notes.

Publication Compiled in 1993-1997.

Material 6 leaves.

Summary Descendants of John Michael Shively (Johann Michael Scheiffle) of Germany, Pennsylvania, Berkeley County, Virginia, and Kentucky. Includes information from Deeds, grants, and patents. 

 

Format Photocopies

 

Subject - Personal Scheiffle, Johann Michael, progenitor

Shively, John Michael, progenitor

Scheiffle family

Shively family

 

Genre/Form Deeds

 

Genealogies -- Germany

Genealogies -- Kentucky

Genealogies -- Pennsylvania

Genealogies -- West Virginia -- Berkeley County

Land grants

Land grants

 

Series Genealogical notes collection; 35559

System Number 000493711

 

Next appeared the long overdue St. Andrew, commanded by the favorite ship captain of the Germans, John Stedman. Several letters of passengers on some of his previous five runs between Rotterdam and Philadelphia were full of praise for him. This time, on a voyage that lasted twelve weeks, almost 120 passengers had died before reaching port on October 29th. The same day, Lloyd Zachary and Thomas Bond, two physicians recruited by the authorities to tighten the inspection of the incoming Palatine ships, presented this report to the colonial council:

 

"We have carefully examined the State of Health of the Mariners and Passengers on board the Ship St. Andrew, Captain Steadman, from Rotterdam, and found a great number labouring under a malignant, eruptive fever, and are of the opinion, they cannot, for some time, be landed in town without the danger of infecting the inhabitants."
 

It was the last emigrant transport that John Stedman ever commanded. After his return to Europe, he settled down in Rotterdam in the shipping business. There was disbelief in the German community that such fate could have befallen a ship led by a Stedman. The Send-Schreiben expressed the reaction as follows:
 

"The two Stedmans, who had so far been renowned for the transfer of Germans and wanted to keep this reputation, also had to suffer the plight this time, one of them lost near 120 before landfall, although he had a party of the Hope's roughest and sturdiest folks, who had to succumb to sickness and fear of death. And the other one lost probably five sixths,

of 300 hardly 60 were left. His mates and some of his sailors he lost and he himself lay near death." to be continued This article is derived from the same material used in a longer article, "The Emigration Season of 1738 – Year of the Destroying Angels," which appeared in The Report, A Journal of German-American History, volume 40, published by the Society of the History of the Germans in Maryland, 1986. The ninety-six references in that article are not given here.

 

Pennsylvania Rifles
 

A major factor in the success of the volunteer Continental Army against a superior professional army during the Revolutionary War was the Pennsylvania rifle and the men who had become expert in its use. The technique for making longrifles came to America in the early 18th century when immigrants from Germany and Switzerland poured into Pennsylvania. Among these people were gunsmiths who brought their special trade and art with them. The

decorative designs used by an artisan clearly distinguished his product from others. In Lancaster a well-known gunsmith was John Graeff. By the time the French & Indian War broke out, the American version of the longrifle had evolved and was in use in the Appalachian Piedmont from Eastern Pennsylvania through Maryland, the Valley of

Virginia, and into the Carolinas. Pioneers in the Kentucky region of Western Virginia used the rifles to great advantage and their guns became to be known as "Kentucky Rifles."
 

The spiral grooves --rifling-- inside the long four-foot long barrels of the guns gave the lead shot a spin as it left the muzzle, causing it to go longer and straighter than projectiles from the alternative, smooth bore muskets. At the time of the Revolutionary War, the flintlock was still in use to ignite the powder. General Washington knew that the Scotch-Irish and German frontiersmen were excellent shots with their longrifles when he called for rifle companies from

Pennsylvania, Maryland and Western Virginia. They brought with them what we would now call "a technological advantage" over the British forces he was preparing to engage.

 

CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY 1745-1800

CIRCUIT COURT RECORDS, SECTION "I."

JUDGMENTS.

page 82

 

Marshall vs. Hunter--O. S. 43; N. S. 15--Bill filed 22d June, 1799. Fairfax had set aside 800 acres for himself which he contemplated giving to a certain ---- Beal (?), but Beal removed out of Berkeley (Frederick). Fairfax devised it to Denny Martin, who conveyed to James M. and John Marshall and others by deed recorded in General Court. The Commonwealth confirmed to purchasers the lands set apart by Lord Fairfax to his own use. Philip Pendleton and David Hunter are in possession of the tract by a treasury warrant, and the parties leave the controversy to the Court. Copy of survey, 1775, for John Ullam of Berkeley County, of a tract lying something more than one mile and three-fourths from the Potomac and adjoining lands of Thomas Adams. Col. John Carlyle, Michael Shively. Copy of survey 1775, for

tract adjoining old patent of John Van Meter on drains of Opecon in Berkeley County formerly surveyed for Robert Beal. Copy of survey 1775, for Morrice Gibbons of Berkeley County. Copy of grant by Fairfax to John Owlent, in 1753.

 

Copy of grant by Fairfax to Cap. Richard Pearis, in 1763. Thomas Rutherford deposes at house of Thomas Flagg, in Charles Town, that from 1752-1763 he was surveyor for Fairfax. Beall returned to England whence he came, and there died. Robert Stephen deposes that after 1768 he was a rent collector for Fairfax. William Rush deposes (1802) that for

30 years he has lived on a tract joining the land in controversy. He is thirty-five years old. Richard Morgan deposes (25th September, 1802) aged 41 years, that he was born within one and one-fourth miles of the land in controversy, and has lived there ever since. His father was Jacob Morgan. John McCool of the society of Friends deposes. Peter Light, Senr., deposes. Robert Cockburn deposes. Copy of deed dated 20th February, 1784, Saml. Oldham and Anne of Berkeley County, to Moses Hunter, a tract on drains of Opeckon, conveyed to Samuel by John Linden (Snider) by deed 11th and 12th September, 1772. Cor. Moses Keywood, Cor. Cap. Richard Pearis, cor. John Newland, 150 acres.
 

Recorded in Berkeley 23d April, 1784. Letter from Richard Rigg to Jacob Morgan, dated 26th July, 1777.  Sims Index to Land Grants in West Virginia Monongalia County. NOTE HARDING SOMETIMES DROPPED THE G. It is difficult to figure out which family these belonged to. However, ABRAHAM was a HARDING.

 

Harden, John Jr. 1,000 Cove Run 1783 1 59

Harden, Mark

10

909 Wts. Lit. Kanawha 1785 2 159

Harding Abraham

400 Scott’s Mill Run 1784 1 167

Hardin, John

400 Lit. Sandy Creek 1787 3 205

Hardin, John Jr.

400 Cove Run 1783 1 48

Hardin, John Jr.

400 Cove Run 1783 1 47

Hardin, John Jr.

400 Cove Run 1783 1 49

Hardin, John Jr.

208 3 Forks Creek 1783 3 374

Hardin, Martin

341 Raccoon Creek 1788 3 504

Harding, Daniel

1,000 Wts. Lit. Kanawha 1786 2 382

Harding, Daniel

2,000 Wts. Lit. Kanawha 1786 2 381

Harding, Daniel (or Harting) 3,000 Reedy Creek 1785 2 380

Harding, Stephen

196 1/2 Scott’s Run 1795 4 466

Shiveley-Shively-also Shrively

Shively, Philip

374 ½ Adj. Wm. Watkins 1819 6 198

Shively, John

302 Scott’s Milburn Wts. 1788 4 3

Shively, Michael*

2 Scott’s Run 1859 7 267

Shively, Philip

341 3/4 Scott’s Mill Run 1784

Shrively, Michael* 2 Scott’s Run 1859 7 267

 

these two appear to be a duplication with a different spelling

View Record DANL. SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772

View Record DANL. SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772

View Record MICHL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772

View Record DANIEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record DANIEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776

View Record DANL. SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

View Record DANL. SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

View Record MICHAEL SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777

 

Children of Hannah Harding and Michael Shively are:

 

+ 11 i. John6 Shively, born 1768 died Abt. 1807.

+ 12 ii. Jacob Shively, born 1772 in Pennsylvania; died Abt. 1851 in Taylor County, Kentucky.

+ 13 iii. Michael Shively, born 1770.

 

 

Children of Hannah Harding and Richard Dean are:

 

+ 14 i. William6 Dean, born Abt. 1782 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette, Pennsylvania; died Abt. 1830 in Perry County, Indiana.

15 ii. Stephen Dean, born 1786 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette, Pennsylvania. He married Susannah Springer August 10, 1815 in Perry County, Indiana; born 1784 in Maryland.

Notes for Stephen Dean:  NARA. Stephen Deen, on 10 Jan 1815, put down a deposit of $80, receipt # 2390 for land in Perry County, recorded in Vincennes land office, 160 acres. SE18 4S 1W. This land was bought on credit.

16 iii. Richard Dean, born 1788 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette, Pennsylvania; died Aft. 1855 in Perry County, Indiana. He married Mary Dawson June 20, 1805 in Jos. Smith Minister, Mouth of Wolf Creek, Hardin County, Kentucky; born 1788 in Bedford County, Virginia; died Aft. 1855 in Perry County, Indiana.

4. Mary Mollie5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born November 05, 1747 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died June 25, 1833 in Washington County, KY. She married John C. Jack Hardin 1769 in Monongalia County, Virginia, son of John Hardin and Native American Unknown. He was born March 08, 1751/52 in Frederick County, Virginia, and died March 27, 1818 in Washington County,

Kentucky.

 

NOTE: THIS MARRIAGE OF MARY HARDING TO JACK HARDIN IS THE BEGINNING OF THE CONFUSION BETWEEN HARDING WITH A “G” AND HARDIN

 

Information as per Patricia Jo Miller website ( http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/palmond/miller.htm )

 

Accessed March 2000

 

John "Jack" Hardin was the natural son of Captain John Hardin (from Bible Record), but was illegitimate, therefore not the son of Capt. John's wife, Isabella Strawbridge Hardin. There has been some speculation "Jack" was the result of a relationship with a Native American, but was raised with the rest of his family in the Hardin home. Considering their close proximity to the Native American peoples, it is not an impossible thought.  Birth, marriage and death dates are reported from a Family Bible.

 

From "Hardin U.S.A. by James Oran Hardin comes a nice summary of the Hardin History that he got from American Monthly Magazine, Vol 3, July-December, 1893. It is a publication of the Daughters of the American Revolution. Even though we know the Hardin lineage farther back than John "Jack" Hardin; Jack and Molly had such an extraordinary life it is felt this is the place for the history to be told.

 

Based on the above article, a Reverend Mr. Abner Morse in his Genealogical Register of the descendants of several ancient Puritans, Hardin is a Gothic word from extremely early Europe. Apparently it was present as early as 1060 in the Domesday Book and possibly earlier.

The article from The American Monthly Magazine was written about a Mrs. Ellen Hardin Walworth, a founder of the DAR, who had to authenticate her ancestry. As was the case with Robert A. Hardin of Oklahoma, she traced Jack to "Ruffle Shirt" Martin Hardin of Virginia, brother to our Major John Hardin and great-uncle to our Jack Hardin of this story. There is an entire story about Ruffle Shirt Martin, but for our purposes we will focus on the Hardins that left Virginia and went on to Kentucky. It is story enough.

 

 

Another book "History of the Hardin Family in the Early Settling of Kentucky, by Jack Hardin Jr., published 1915, by Baptist World Publishing Company, Louisville, KY has been called a "treasure" and should be required reading for all Hardin and Harding descendants with an interest in this family.
 

Even the introduction to the book speaks to the character of the people contained within. It was by Thomas J. Hardin who said, "I am several generations removed from the author...who was exceedingly anxious that the daring acts and brave deeds of Hardin(g)s be perpetuated...and finding no other member of the family willing, did it himself even

though he was in delicate health and passed away shortly after he finished the manuscript." It was about 30 years after it was written before it was published, again because of lack of interest on the part of family members. It is apparently by good luck we have it at all!

 

Thomas J. Hardin expressed that he felt "it was best to publish the manuscript in the

style in which it was written".  Once again J. Oran Hardin, family historian, tackled the job of trying to condense the book which is actually several stories woven together. The following is taken liberally from that fine effort.

 

Jack and his wife, Mary, "Molly" Harding Hardin had a tragic but fascinating life together. They were part of the group nicknamed "The Monongahela Bunch" because they left Virginia into western Pennsylvania, where they went down the Monongahela River to the Ohio River to Kentucky on rafts. Jack and Molly lived for a few years in the Monongahela River country and started a family. In 1780 they became embroiled in a fatal, yet heroic incident. This

has become a family legend passed down from one generation to the next.

 

When Virginia opened the new lands of Kentucky to claims and settlement in 1779, Jack Hardin planned that he and his family would seek their fortunes there at the first opportunity. He, his wife Mary, and two young sons were then living in the Cheat/Monongahela River area of southwestern Pennsylvania. Early in 1780 there appeared in the Fort Redstone area a man named Reynolds with his family, from Maryland, intending to go to Kentucky. Reynolds arranged for two flatboats to be built at the Redstone Boatyard, a large one for livestock and a smaller one for living quarters for families.

 

As Reynolds needed several additional hands, Jack signed on as did Mary's brother, Thomas Harding, and Jack's uncle, "Big Bill" Hardin, both unmarried but experienced woodsmen. There were also three other families name Malotte, Robertson and Shively. A third boat with the families of John Thickston and John Pringle joined and completed the convoy, on the theory that there was safety in numbers.

 

In early March, despite inclement weather, the women and children and household effects were loaded into the smaller boat, the livestock into the large one, and the little flotilla started down the Monongahela River. Each boat had an oarsmen and a steersman to keep it generally in midstream and clear of obstructions; but due to the labor of handling

the large boat and of tending to the livestock, most of the men usually were on it.

 

Everything went well for over two weeks, down the Monongahela, past Fort Pitt, and on down the Ohio to a little east of present Portsmouth, Ohio and the mouth of the Scioto River, where they were headed for "The Falls". There, on the morning of March 20th, disaster

struck.

 

Accounts vary; one relates that gusty winds pushed the small boat dangerously close to the Ohio shore; another tells that two white men (who turned out to be renegades) appeared on the shore appealing for help to escape from Indians, and the small boat started in to investigate. In any event, a heavy volley of gunfire came from a large number of Indians

hidden in ambush along the Ohio shore, aimed at both of the Reynolds boats; which killed the oarsmen and some of the passengers in the family boat, leaving it helpless. The Indians rushed into the water and drew the small boat to shore, where they ruthlessly killed and mutilated any men or older boys still alive, and several more women and children; then systematically looted the boat's cargo. They whooped with glee as they ripped open feather mattresses and let the wind carry clouds of feathers far out over the water.

 

Then they herded their captives - the Mallot family, Mrs. Robertson, Mary Hardin and little son Robert, and several others ashore and headed north toward their camps on the Scioto River. Mangled bodies of the dead left on the family boat included the oarsmen, the entire Reynolds family, Mrs. Shively and her child, the two Robertson boys, and little Stephen Hardin.

 

Meantime, on the larger stock boat, two men were killed and several critically wounded by the initial volleys. After securing their boat near the Kentucky shore, several men in a canoe attempted to reach the family boat, but after suffering two more casualties, decided that a counterattack was foolhardy. The men, only a few of who were unwounded, were reduced to watching helplessly as the Indians looted the family boat, and marched what remained

of the families off into the woods. When the Indians had gone, a party crossed the river and surveyed the horrible scene on the small boat. The dead were buried. Jack and Mr. Robertson sat by the graves of their loved ones and wouldn't move. It was Mr. Shively who took them both by the hand and pulled them away. That is when they made the "oath or covenant" to fight Indians until death. The boat was moored in the middle of the river for the night.

 

The next morning Jack and "Little" John Hardin followed the Indian's trail for about 30 miles. They found a young child that had been killed, left on the ground and they buried it. Later Mary Hardin said it was killed for crying. Little John and Jack returned to the river getting there at daybreak the next morning and it was concluded that immediate rescue of the captives was impossible, so the survivors proceeded on down the Ohio to the Falls to recover from their wounds, and to organize a rescue party.

 

In April 1780, Jack, Little John, Thomas Harding and Robertson disguised as Indians, set out to search for the women and children and take them from the Indians. They followed the trail until evidence indicated that the Indians had split taking captives with each group. Jack and Thomas followed one trail and Little John and Robertson followed the other The trail led Jack and Thomas to a large village which they scouted from across the Scioto River from the top of a tree.  They identified Mary and Robert and noted in which tent they stayed. There were perhaps a hundred Indian men in the village. At midnight, the two men crept into the center of the village unseen until a dog barked waking the Indians and a big fight ensued in which the two men had to "cut" their way out with Thomas Harding being shot in the thigh.

 

Somehow they escaped leaving the Indians fighting each other in the dark. Their disguises had worked causing the Indians to think other Indians were prowling around in their camp. Jack and Thomas got a canoe, went far downstream, and found a hiding place for Thomas to recuperate from his wound.  The other two men had many encounters with Indians and returned to the Falls later than Jack and Thomas with many trinkets etc. causing people at the Falls to laugh at their "get up". At that time, General George Rogers Clark came to

the Falls to enlist an army to deal with the Indians who were becoming quite active raiding parties on their way down the Ohio River. The Hardin men agreed to help if they could go "out front" as scouts which they did as part of Kenton's Scouts. Clark managed to set some villages afire, but the Indians only moved farther north into settlements first on the

Miami and then on the Sandusky River. Clark was eventually forced to retreat to the Falls.

 

At that time, more Hardins were arriving and the search for the missing women and children was resumed. William Hardin (Indian Bill) and Little John teamed up to go up the Miami River and even into Indiana. They were a real "gung ho" team. Indian Bill was described as six feet four inches tall, dark complexion, dark hair, big Roman nose, all lean and 240 pounds. He had a big rifle which was too heavy for an ordinary man. He was a crack shot and threatened to

break the gun if he missed. The two, Little John and Bill both fleet on foot as runners, with Bill's rifle with it's longer range, gave them advantages which resulted in the saving of their scalps many times. They would fire, run off in a circle reloading as they ran, and shoot again, causing Indians to think they were surrounded by an army!

 

Thus, Molly Hardin began a year and a half of captivity as a slave of the Indians. During the next few days the prisoners were marched to Indian settlements further north in Ohio; Molly to a village on the Scioto River near were Chillicothe now stands, while Mrs. Robertson was in a village on the Little Miami. Molly had to carry little Robert on her back most of the way. Prisoner's food was limited to scraps and offal. They were exposed to the weather, without

adequate clothing or protection. They were treated with contempt and cruelty by the men, although some of the women of the tribe grudgingly began to respect Molly for her courage, and to take better care of her.

 

One of the worst ordeals was "running the gauntlet". Indian braves lined up in two rows, then prisoners were forced to run between them, with the Indians hitting the runner with sticks or clubs as she scurried by. Molly endured this several times, acquiring scars she bore the rest of her life; but the last time, with little Robert crying "Run, Mommy, run!", she went so quickly that she was untouched and was never subjected to the gauntlet again.

 

At another time, for some reason, not now known, she was to be burned at the stake, or otherwise killed. Two tribal women (now friends) hid her under a large fallen log, covered with dead leaves, for several days until the Chief changed his mind.

 

It was at the Sandusky Indian camp Molly and Mrs. Robertson were reunited, and Molly's daughter, Mary, was born.  It was here also that another unsuccessful rescue attempt resulted in the capture of Mr. Shively by the Indians, who ceremoniously burned him at the stake while the prisoners were forced to watch.  With a baby and a small son to care for, in addition to the menial tasks she was required to perform, Molly led a miserable existence. Eventually in November 1781 some Frenchmen in Montreal arranged ransom for the prisoners,

who were then taken to Quebec until arrangements could be made to return them to their homes. Molly with her two children arrived in Philadelphia in February 1782, and back home on the Monongahela shortly after that. Jack was still in Kentucky, so it took a few more weeks for him to receive the good news and make his way back to Pennsylvania.

 

On May 19, 1783, just about a year after their reunion, our ancestor, Hannah Hardin was born in Washington Co., KY.  Jack and Molly went on to have several more children as well.

The Indian troubles continued for many years and in 1792 Col. John Hardin went into Ohio on a mission of peace and was murdered by the Indians at the present place called Hardin, OH, which is named for him. This left the settlement at Pleasant Run very low in morale for the next year or so. One year, they hardly had the will to even make crops, wanting to kill Indians instead. When Jack Hardin arrived with his family, he was destitute and sick with an illness.

 

Col. John Hardin claimed a tract of land for him in the midst of the Hardins. Jack was thrown in the brig by General Clark for bushwhacking an Indian on his way to a peace pow-wow at the Falls. Jack's friend Mordecia Lincoln (uncle of Abraham Lincoln), for whom Jack later named a son, faked a drunk act so Jack's kin could spring him out. That's when Jack fled twenty miles southwest of Louisville and found the good land. Jack had no horse to pull a plough, so he and Mordecia Lincoln, crossed the Ohio River one night and "requisitioned" three horses from Indians. One black mare became the mother of some the best Kentucky racing stock today. Within a few years the Hardins became well off, many of them owning slaves and had built nice large homes. The older men enjoyed life with their horse racing

and socializing.

 

The Jack Hardin book doesn't even begin to cover the many acts of courage and bravery and outstanding accomplishments of these very great people. As Jack said, "If anyone knew of people anywhere that were braver, he wished they would tell him about them" It is a comment in courage and devotion that Jack and Molly together, could have faced such an inhumane separation and still come back together and raise their family to adulthood. It is a lasting tribute, indeed.

 

Marriage 1 Mary Harding b: 5 NOV 1747
 

Children

Stephen Hardin b: 7 MAR 1775 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania

Robert Hardin b: 6 MAY 1776 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania

Lewis Hardin b: 30 SEP 1778 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania

Mary Hardin b: 22 OCT 1780 in Indian Camp in Ohio

Hannah Hardin b: 19 MAY 1783 in Washington Co., Kentucky

Nancy Hardin b: 4 DEC 1785 in Washington Co., Kentucky

Elizabeth Hardin b: 8 JAN 1788 in Washington Co., Kentucky

Mordecai Hardin b: 5 MAR 1792 in Washington Co., Kentucky

 

Children of Mary Harding and John Hardin are:

 

17 i. Lewis6 Hardin, born 1773 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died January 02, 1780 in Fayette

County, Pennsylvania.

18 ii. Stephen Hardin, born March 07, 1775 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died March 20, 1780 in

Killed by Indians, ambush on Ohio River.

15

+ 19 iii. Robert Hardin, born May 06, 1776 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died March 10, 1840 in

Meade County, Kentucky.

20 iv. Mary Hardin, born October 29, 1780 in Miami Indian camp during captivity, Ohio; died Aft. June

05, 1837 in Two Miles from Flint Island, Meade County, Kentucky. She married Cuthbert Harrison January 12, 1804

in Washington County, Kentucky; born 1746 in Virginia; died June 01, 1837 in Two Miles from Flint Island, Meade

County, Kentucky.

+ 21 v. Hannah Hardin, born May 19, 1783 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania; died August 28, 1815 in Childbirth,

Crawford County, Indiana.

22 vi. Nancy Hardin, born December 04, 1785 in Washington County, KY; died September 03, 1838 in Perry

County, Indiana. She married John Stephenson February 02, 1807 in Washington County, Kentucky; born January

17, 1777; died December 25, 1862 in Perry County, Indiana.

23 vii. Elizabeth Hardin, born January 08, 1788 in Washington County, KY; died October 25, 1795 in Washington County, KY.

+ 24 viii. Mordecai Hardin, born November 18, 1795 in Washington County, Kentucky; died March 21, 1870.

5. Robert5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born 1748 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died 1821 in Fayette County, Indiana. He married Mary Martha "Patsy" Wade in Pennsylvania, daughter of John Wade. She was born December 18, 1765.

Robert was excused from militia service in Washington County, KY in 1793 for age and infirmity which usually occurred at age 45. He died at the home of his son Ede in Fayette Co., Indiana. He was a soldier in the REV War as were also four of his brothers: Abraham, Thos, Stephen and probably John.  He and his brother Abraham were listed as distillers in Springhill Township, Fayette Co., PA in 1786.  It appears Robert did not move to Green County with his brothers, but stayed in Washington Co. About 1808 he moved

to Butler Co., Ohio, then later to Indiana. 

 

Child of Robert Harding and Mary Wade is:

 

25 i. Ede6 Harding.

6. Stephen5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born 1749 in

Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died February 25, 1815 in Green County, Kentucky. He married Elizabeth NLN.

She died Aft. 1815 in Kentucky.

Will Records of Green County, Kentucky 1796-1824

Green County Wills Book OSPage: 140 Name: Stephen Hardin

(Spelled Hardin and Harding in will) Written: 25 February 1815 My wife, Elizabeth My sons: Asa, Stephen, John C., and Abraham My daughters: Margaret, Prudence, Elizabeth, Mary, and Rebecca My grand-daughters: Elizabeth, Nancy, and Susannah Hoves Witnesses: Lewis Webb and Aaron Harding Probated: 25 March 1816 Harding, Stephen:Additional military information: Private, Capt. Abel Mason's co., Col. Jonathan Holman's regt.; from

10 Dec to 28 Dec 1776; company stationed at Providence, R. I. Ref. MA01

 

Monongalia County, Virginia:
 

1. Deed Book A., Page 251. April 1796 -- Stephen Harding of State of Kentucky sells by his attorney Abraham Harding 196 1/2 acres on Scotts Mill Run in Monongalia County, Virginia, to John Downer for 20 pounds; land adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin; record May 1796.

 

GREAT BETHEL (UNIONTOWN. PA) (1770)

The Great Bethel (Uniontown) Church was the first church of any faith organized in western Pennsylvania. It was constituted on November 7, 1770, at the home of John Sutton, a native of New Jersey, by Elder Henry Crosbye. Isaac Sutton was licensed the next day, and soon became the first pastor. There were six charter members, viz.: Jacob Vanmeter, Richard Hall, Jeremiah Blackford, Sarah Hall, Rachel Sutton, and Leticia Vanmeter.

 

Another early minister who labored in this area, under deep affliction, was Elder John Corbly, whose wife and five children were massacred (by Indians) as they were going on foot to their place of worship, 1782. He himself had been imprisoned in Virginia for preaching the gospel. He died in 1803.  When the Redstone Association was organized at Goshen Church in Greene Co., Pa., on October 7, 1776, Great Bethel Church was one of the founding members. Prior to this time, Great Bethel Church was a member of the Ketocton Association of Virginia.

 

SURNAMES OF MEMBERS OF GREAT BETHEL:

Anderson, Baccus, Blackford, Boltinghouse, Bowell, Carr, Davis, Drago, Gaddis, Griffith, Hall, Hardin, Heady, Jenkins, Littell, McCoy, Morgan, Murphy, Osborne, Pierce, Reed, Sutton, Thomas, Truax, Vanmeter (very incomplete list, but the records exist and we hope to add more names soon).

 

MOUNT MORIAH (GEORGE'S CREEK)(1784)

 

Mount Moriah Church was originally an arm of Great Bethel Church. On October 30, 1784, it was constituted with twenty-seven members, viz., William Wells, Rebecca Wells, Joseph Thomas, Jane Jenkins, Owen Davis, Hannah Davis, Joseph Brown, Abigail Brown, David Morgan, Robert Hannah, Ann Griffin, Jeremiah Becks, Dinah Becks, Thomas Bowell, Ann Bowell, Richard Reed, Sarah Reed, Ann Coombs, Eliza Carr, Eliza Ashcraft, Sarah Hardin, Joshua Pane, Balthahazer Drago, Margaret Wood, Philip Jenkins, Jesse Coombs, and Abraham Hardin. The church united with the Redstone Association in September 1785.

Pastors of this church until the time of the trouble over missions, included Elders James Sutton, Samuel Woodbridge, George Guthrie, John Corbly, David Loofborough, Benjamin Stone, James Estep, John Patton, and James Frey.

 

Fayette County Genealogy Project

 

1. Monthly Meeting Minutes 1784-1797 Mount Moriah Church

Transcribed by Carole Clarke & Beverly Sellers-Niel

June 11,1785:

 

Received. Abram Harden by Letter, Received. Ann Combes by Letter from Connolway Church Br. Joseph Thomas & Robert Hannah appointed to site Br. David Morgan to the next meeting.

May 13, 1786:  a Charge Brought Against Negro Phill that he attempted to goe to Bed to Harden's Wench. Messenger [s] sent to Examin into it, Bro. Wells Philip Jenkins and Woodbridge.
 

Aug 12, 1786: Br. Abrm. Hardin Requests a Dismission for himself and wife to join another Church of the same order his Request granted and Recorder ordered to Draw and sign a letter in Behalf of the Church.

 

Monthly meeting February 9th 1788

 

1. By a Request the Church Grants Sarah Harden a letter of Dismission

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Monthly Meeting Oct: 10th 1789 . Proceeded to Business a letter of Dismission to Sarah Hardin one was sent Before

But it seems she did not Receive it.

 

MONTHLY MEETING SEPTEMBER 13 1794

To Enquire into the Case of Brother Abraham Hardin concerning his being accused with having a child by one Hannah Williams After Discoursing a while on the Subject and Not having Sufficient Evidence present, concluded to postpone a final Decision of the Matter until our Meeting of Business in November. When the evidences are to be present. Like wise it was Concluded that our Brethren David Morgan and Thos. Bowell are to go over where Harden

lives and enquire into the matter before the time appointed to Settle it and Mr. Woodbridge concluded to act as an Assistant with them in making the enquiry.

 

MONTHLY MEETING NOVEMBER 8TH-1794

Being Opened by Brother Woodbridge proceeded to Business This Church agreed to Recommend it to brother Abraham Hardin to Apply to Some magistrate in the Neighborhood

Where he and Hannah Williams lives and Obtain all the testimony before a committee Nominated by the magistrate and then bring said Hannah Williams to hear her Accusers face to face before sd Magistrate and said Committee to Report in writing their Opinion on the Subject to this Church

 

MONTHLY MEETING NOVEMBER 7 1795

Opened by Singing and prayer Brother Stone Moderator

Concluded to Send a letter to Brother Abraham Hardin to desire him to come to our Next Meeting of business to inform

the Church what he had done in the affair the Church has against him which appears by the Minutes of November 8-

1794 that Request he has not yet Complied with and if he does not Comply with the Request the Church must proceed

against him. Brother Sutton to write to him in behalf of the Church. ( page 31, 32)

MONTHLY MEETING JANUARY 9 - 1796

Opened by Singing and prayer.

Then Proceeded to consider of the case of Abraham Harden there being but a few of us together concluded to Postpone

it till our Next meeting.

 

MONTHLY MEETING FEBRUARY 13 1796

 

Opened by Singing and prayer

Proceeded to Enquire into the affair of Abraham Hardin he being present and Produced the Quoliafications of Several

persons who had heard the sd Hannah Williams which Swore a child to sd Hardin say that she had wronged him and

that if it was to do again she would not Do it for all the world. Upon which the Church Dismissed the sd Hardin and

his wife.

PITMAN CREEK PRIMITIVE CHURCH, Green County, KY.

Abraham also dissatisfied at times with this church. He is mentioned on pages 15, 19, 22, 24, 30, 37, 42, 49, 50, 52,

53, 55, 56, 58, 59, 73, 76, 77, 79, 192, 198, 199, 201.

Children of Abraham Harding and Sarah Moore are:

43 i. Hannah6 Harding, born April 19, 1778 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA.

She married James Dawson January 30, 1804 in Green County, Kentucky.

44 ii. Aaron Harding, born April 07, 1780 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA. He married Hannah Hollett October 20, 1806 in Washington County, Kentucky.

45 iii. Ruhamah Harding, born December 30, 1781 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA. She married John Rice; born December 05, 1781 in Buckingham County, Virginia.

 

Will Records of Green County, Kentucky 1796-1824

Green County Wills Book ?? OSPage: 126

Name: John Rice

 

 

Written: 23 March 1815 My wife, Laruhany Caruhany Rice, a third My children Witnesses:

Aaron and Samuel Harding Probated: 25 September 1815

46 iv. Mary Harding, born November 04, 1783 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA. She married Rueben Ball May 08, 1801 in Green County, Kentucky.

+ 47 v. Lavina Harding, born September 19, 1785 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA.

48 vi. Sarah Harding, born February 08, 1787 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA and VA; died 1875.

She married David Anderson Rice March 26, 1806 in Green County, Kentucky; born December 27, 1783 in Buckingham County, Virginia.

Will Records of Green County, Kentucky 1796-1824

Green County Wills Book 2 OSPage: 1

Name: David Rice

Written: 20 March 1816 My son, Benjamin ... land bounded on the east by William Wilcoxen,

on the south by John Sandridge, on the west by Harvey's Survey My daughter, Mary ... money

from Martin Mitchell of Warren County My sons: James H., Jonathan A., David, and William My

daughters: Elisabeth Maccoun, Chalia Trotter, and Susannah A ___ (torn ... land in Warren

County My daughter, Frances Mitchell Witnesses: Benjamin Rice, John Sandridge, Nancy Rice,

and James H. Rice Probated: 22 July 1816

9. Thomas R. S.5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born

January 08, 1756 in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and died June 20, 1840 in Rev. War Vet, Green County, Kentucky. He

married Sarah Payne February 05, 1784 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, daughter of Jonathan Payne. She was born

December 18, 1765, and died Aft. 1844.

Notes for Thomas R. S. Harding:

Granson, Jack Harding said Thomas Harding and his family moved to the Cheat River when Thomas was 9 years old

or 1767.

Children of Thomas Harding and Sarah Payne are:

+ 49 i. Amy6 Harding, born December 27, 1794 in Washington County, Kentucky; died 1860.

+ 50 ii. John ( Rev ) Harding, born January 26, 1785 in Green County, Kentucky; died November 11, 1854

in Greensburg, Kentucky.

51 iii. Samuel ( Rev) Harding, born December 05, 1787 in Green County, Kentucky. He married Ann

Shipp; born February 19, 1792 in Green County, Kentucky; died January 04, 1864 in Johnson, Indiana.

3 sep 1814: Minutes of Pitman Creek Baptist Church: " The church agress to grant a license unto

Brethren James Ship and Samual Harding to preach the gospel anywhere God in Providenc may

call them."

3 Dec 1814: "Brother Samuel Harding to have a letter of dismissial in full fellowship."

52 iv. Rebecca Harding, born May 26, 1790. She married Hezekiah Puryear.

Notes for Rebecca Harding:

6 March 1813: Minutes of Pitman Creek Baptist Church, Green County, KY " Mrs. Rebeccah

Puryear came forward and was received by experience. Baptized on 7 March 1813.

+ 53 v. Sarah Sally Harding, born July 29, 1792.

54 vi. Noah Harding, born August 28, 1797. He married Lucinda Rogers.

55 vii. Ruhama Harding, born February 18, 1799. She married Nathaniel Reed.

56 viii. Payne Harding, born February 08, 1802. He married Matilda Reed.

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57 ix. Aaron Harding, born February 20, 1805. He married (1) Margaret Campbell. He married (2) Sallie

Callender.

10. Eden5 Harding (John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1) was born 1758 in

Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died January 04, 1846 in Marion County, Indiana. He married Dorcas Cooper 1782.

Children of Eden Harding and Dorcas Cooper are:

58 i. David6 Harding, born Abt. 1784.

59 ii. John Harding, born 1786.

60 iii. Robert Harding, born 1790.

61 iv. Noah Harding, born 1792.

62 v. Dorcas Ann Harding, born 1798.

63 vi. Solomon Harding, born 1800 in Kentucky. He married Susan Taylor April 27, 1829 in Jefferson

County, Kentucky.

64 vii. Jesse Harding, born January 13, 1803; died February 23, 1893 in Iowa. He married Hannah Byrkit 1828

in Marion County, Indiana.

Generation No. 3

11. John6 Shively (Hannah5 Harding, John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2, Stephen1)

was born 1770, and died Abt. 1807. He married Susannah Hayden October 10, 1794 in Washington County,

Kentucky, daughter of William Hayden and Susannah Buckman. She was born October 10, 1774 in St Mary's

County, Maryland.

Notes for John Shively:

The more I think about it, what we need to find which may answer all of questions and the only thing that may be

findable is the will of Michael Shively or the probate packet. (Kelly)

If our thesis is correct, Michael Shively had two families. It appears that the Berkely property was given to Christian,

son of the first wife. And, the second and third parcel to children of his second marriage to Hannah.

 

My guess is he died at the Scott Mill Run property about 1778. Or, it could have been Georges Creek.  So, rather than go all over the place looking for this and that, let's focus on just this one thing. Finding a will or probate packet. This will make it easier for the researcher.  It looks like Scotts Mill Run was finally deeded to Michael Shively in 1774 and then the probate settled 8 July 1788 and then another transaction 15 Mar 1792. In 1792, the land was sold to Abraham Harding who was living next door.

 

My guess is the researcher will look for the latest transaction which should contain information of previous transactions on this land. And finally find something in probate court.

From the Monongalia County,, WV Deed Book 125, Page 178 we have a deed for my John Shively who sold land to Abraham Harden which was land that Michael Shively, deceased had owned. "This indenture made the 15th day of March in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety-two between John Shively of Nelson County and State of Virginia (later KY) of the one part and Abraham Harden of Monongalia County and state afsd of the other part.......

The land contined 302 acres by survey given to John Shively (more info following)......Neighbors mentioned in this transaction include Thomas Dawsons land on Scotts Mill Run....Abraham Harden......The "survey" mentioned was given to John Shively on 8th day of July 1788 for 302 acres "unto John Shively heir at law of Michael Shively deceased a certain tract or parcel of land containing 302 acres .....being in the county of Monongalia on Scot's Mill run waters adjoining lands of Abram Harding and his settlement made in 1774.........

 

Then there is this entry.

 

10 August 1803

Michael Shively & Jacob Shively, heirs of Michael Shively, deceased, both of green County, appoint William Kelso of Breckinridge County, their power of atty to sell & transfer a tract in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, on the waters of George's Creek. THUS, MICHAEL SHIVELY OWNED ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.

 

Another transaction involving Jacob and Michael Shively, 18 Jan, 1810. John Shively, deceased. So the father of the 3 boys was Michael and lived on George's Creek, Fayette Co. PA.

 

From Larry Shively: I have something else I hope you will find interesting.  My John Shively bought lots in Hardinsburgh, Breckenridge County, KY in 1803!!!  Breckenridge Co, KY Deed Book B, Page 36..... This indenture made this twenty eighth day of October one thousand eight hundred and three between William Kelso of Breckenridge Co and State of KY of the one part and John Shiveley of Hardin County State aforesaid of the other part......sell unto John Shively six lots in the town of Hardinsburgh namely two inn lots the one number fifteen and the other number twenty nine as will appear by the plan of said town. The out lots as follows, to wit, Number fifteen containing five acres and twenty five poles, Number

twenty nine containing five acres and twenty poles, Number thirty two containing five acres and twenty five poles, number fourteen containing four acres three rods and five poles as will appear by the plan of said town.  I have always thought John Shively and Susannah Hayden Shively moved to Breckenridge Co because some of the family of Susannah had moved there. Now I have additional things to think about knowing that the Deans were there also. I have been to the Breckenridge County courthouse before but just didn't find very much information. Of course at that time I was focusing on the Shively's. If I could have only had the whole picture in mind! Larry

 

On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:23 PM, MBPKelly@aol.com wrote:

 

Yes, Richard Dean was found on 1792 Tax list in Pitman Creek.  We also found where he sold that land in 1797 and also wound up in court over that sale and was subpoenaed from

Breckenridge County in 1803. It appears Richard Dean was caught up in the mess over proving the land was his to begin with and survey problems.  Now Larry Dean has found, for the first time, Hannah Dean on a Pitman Baptist Church list and also some reference

to the Great Bethel Baptist Church in Fayette Co. PA. Also on that church list were the Harding brothers. And, Shivelys there also. So, what we've accomplished is to find the clusters of Shively, Harding and Dean in Pitman Creek, Green County KY and also references back to Fayette, PA. Now we need to get some proof and it will have to be church records as it appears nothing else exists as PA didn't require registration of marriages until long after these folks left PA.

 

June 30, 2006. Just talked to guy at NARA. In 1807 John Shively put down a deposit at the Vincennes land office and must have died shortly after. John Shively put down a deposit on the land, but the patent was never issued to him. The patent was issued to Jonathan Boone, exeter twp. Harrison County. This became Crawford County. 

in Green County, Kentucky.

 

 

Abraham Harding Author: Jeremy Johnson Date: 29 Jun 2000 12:00 PM GMT

Surnames: Harding, Colvin, Allen Classification: Obituary

Campbellsville, October 5, 1891

 

I feel it a duty I owe myself and the family of the deceased to chronicle something of the long and peaceful life and quiet death of Abraham Harding Sr., who departed this life on the 3rd day of October, 1891 at his home near this place at the age of 75 years.

 

He was the son of Abel Harding and his mother was a sister of Robert and Henderson Colvin who were well and favorably known throughout this county. He was also a grandson of John Harding, who was a brother to Thomas, Stephen and Abraham Harding. The said Thomas Harding was the father of the Rev. John Harding, the old and able divine who lived and did such successful work among our people; also the father of Hon. Aaron Harding, the renowned Kentucky lawyer and statesmen.

 

The deceased, Abraham Harding leaves a widow whose maiden name was Keziah Allen, daughter of Samuel Allen, with whom he had spent nearly fifty years of his life. They had lived a long and happy life together, each clinging to and supporting the other with all the fervency of loving souls and fulfilling the grave and salutary vows entered into at their marital altar. He lived to see twelve children reach their years of maturity, six of whom survive him and six have long since gone to meet their God in the untried Beyond.

 

Mr. Harding was a man of strong and striking native intellect, honesty, sobriety, industry,

decision of character and greatest of all, was a Christian. He had been a consistent member of the Baptist church for many years. He did not wait until awakened by the foot-steps of that messenger, Death, whose approach he could not resist, but in the years of his strength and manhood he sought this blessed pardon.

 

I have known him for the last seventeen years; some of his younger children were my pupils in school when I first started in life. Intellect, industry and determination are the leading

characteristics of the whole family. And I say to you, widowed wife and fatherless children, do not mourn like those who have no hope, but look up, through your sorrows, to the source from which all strength comes, and entertain the happy thought, that it is your blessed privilege to meet him, after awhile, where sorrows, afflictions and partings are and ever will be, eternal strangers, where, by the grace of God, we hope to meet you. H. C. W.

 

I've had access to the Revolutionary Pension applications through Heritage Quest. If a vet or his spouse were alive and applied for the pension in 1832, they will be listed.

I've found some, such as Thomas Harding and Eden Harding and others and have been able to determine that just about all of the Hardings, Hardins, Shivelys and most like the Deans were involved in the Revolution but as minutemen or rangers. None of these were entitled to a paycheck or bounty land and I'm finding that they were under the command of Shinn and Gaddes and others.

And, they were in Westmoreland, Georges Creek for the most part at that time. They would be called out to chase Indians and in some cases small units of British soldiers. The British soldiers who were captured were marched to Lancaster, PA.

There are lists of Rangers who served in the Revolution but not available on the internet.

I asked Margaret Smith to send me the information she has on Shinn's Rangers.

Just wanted to update you on this.

Amelia
 

July 24, 2006

Legacy Books
Larry Dean
3019 Kaye Lawn Dr.
Louisville, KY 40220

Dear Larry:

Greetings. Thank you for inviting me to be a part of your Dean and Shively research once again. I have been trying to locate the Georges Creek property records beyond 1803. I have not been able to come up with an earlier deed. I searched for a reference from the following resources without locating the Dean or Shively surname: Two Lists of Early Residents in South Western Pennsylvania Those Holding Virginia Grants 1779-1785 & Signers of a Petition to Form a New State Compiled by Helen L. Harriss, CG., This source included a great map illustrating the boundary controversy between PA & VA. Old Springhill by Emma Dean Anderson, (no index), 1938, Sheriff's Deed Books 1785-, Continuance Dockets from the Office of the Prothonotary 1783-, Records of West Augusta & Yohogania County prepared under the direction of the Uniontown Public Library 1936, (John Snively listed). I searched Pennsylvania Marriages prior to 1790.Marriages were not recorded early on in the Fayette County Courthouse. Some PA marriages are published in the Second Series of the Pa Archives Harrisburg Volume II.

A search was conducted of Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files Vol. I: A-E Abstracted by Virgil D. White. Westmoreland Co. Pa. in 1783
compiled by Shirley McQuIlis copyright 1983 by SW Genealogical Services lists Benjamin Dean Richard Dean, Christopher, John and Phillip Shively as early inhabitants there. As I mentioned, I have located references to Scott's Mill Run and I have copies of early maps to send to you. References will be from The Monongalia Story, A Bicentennial History by Earl L. Core, McClain Printing Co. Parsons, West Va. Westward of Ye Laurel Hills 1750-1850 by Helen Vogt, 1976 has a sketch of a watermark concerning Jacob Shively estate sale bill for May 26, 1760. Court records at West Virginia University Library in Morgantown.

The 1772 Tax Assessment Rolls Taxes Due to Bedford County By Residents of Westmoreland County, which was Separated From Bedford County in 1773 including Territory which later became Fayette County in 1783 part of Springhill, Tyrone and in 1784 part of Rostraver, Springhill Twp. page 48 lists John Shively.

The 1798 Direct Tax List or Window Tax List of Fayette County, Pa, micro-film roll 23 Second Assessment of the District Vols. 697-702, National Archives Roll 372-23 Washington 1962. Lists John Shively in a log cabbin 20 by 26 feet, and a John Dean is listed as an occupant of a log cabbin and Sally Simpson is the owner.

The Index to Fayette Wills by Bob and Mary Closson, (you may have this information) Dean, Caleb 1842
Edward 1898
John 1849
John 1842
Martha 1888
Zadvek? 1890.


John Shively was the Tax Assessor in Springhill Twp. Fayette County during the 1819s into the 1820s. I will follow up on tracing back his property records and the acquisition of the property. He was also a farmer. I am also sending you the Index to the Colonial Records compiled by Dr. Mary Dunn. The index lists Deans as well as Shivelys. I have searched numerous unpublished sources in the Pennsylvania Room hoping to locate Revolutionary War references. I will continue to check for County records for you.

Once again, thank you.

Sincerely,
Vicki J. Leonelli

 

She IS searching for Michael Shively's will or probate or property inventory. That is the key to this whole Dean Search.

The 3 sons of his marriage to Hannah were small boys when he died. At some point, these boys were established as the heirs of Michael Shively.

These are the documents Vicki is searching for and also searching for Richard Dean in the process.

Once Vicki has searched all she has available to her, then the next search is the parent county of Fayette, which was Westmoreland, then the parent of Westmoreland and so on.  The property on Georges Creek may be the diamond we are looking for.

if the PA search yields nothing, then it's Mononagalia and then Maryland.  At least we have narrowed down the time frame: 1778-1783 ish in the search for Michael

Since there was so much movement of county and state borders, it may take several researchers to find anything.

But, there is so much information in the Pennsylvania State Archives, Lord knows where this will lead to.

I have send a request to the Tennessee State Archives to follow up on John Shively, b. 1749.  I'm hoping that the property he owned will show a transfer and that might be his daughter and her family.  We can narrow that down to 1841-1850.

Vicki has also found other things on John Shively and this may be the same person. She found an assessment of a John Shively's property, listing a log cabin and the size and so on.  But he was renting this property.

Since Larry is bound and determined to find the Dean/Hannah/Shively connection, this may take some time.

I wrote Margaret Smith asking for more information on the roster of Capt. Nicholas Shinn's company of Rangers.  We know a Henry Shively and a couple Hardings were in that company. But, we need to look at the entire roster and see if there are any more family members.

So, Michael Shively's death, will, probate are the key to all of this.  Or, that is the way I see it.

I found that the Redstone Baptist Minutes in Persi and they are on file in Allen County, Indiana library.  I've written for those.  I expect to find John Redstone Harding, the father of Hannah in those minutes and just maybe they will reveal more information. These minutes go back to 1760s when the Hardings came to Redstone.

I guess we just have to keep following the clues and see where they take us.

Amelia
 

 

 
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