I am not related to any of the
group. I am related to Larry Dean through our mothers who were
Weaver cousins.
Larry has asked me to help him
find his Dean ancestors. The clue to the Dean/Shively
connection was that a Shively named his daughter Hannah Dean
Shively. Another clue was that in the household of Richard Dean
were 3 Shively boys. This goes back to 1792 in Kentucky but
listed on VA census as KY was part of VA at that time.
From the 3 Shively boys, I was led
to Larry Shively. He also said he thought there was some
connection to the Deans.
So over the past year, I've been
tracking and trailing.
The reference to the marriage is
YORK COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA,
1733-1800: CHRIST EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH
The ministers of Christ
Evangelical Lutheran Church, located in the city of York, began
keeping records in 1733. The late F. J. C. Hertzog translated
the original entries from German to English in 1919. The records
in this database span the years 1733-1800 and include the names
of 17,565 individuals who lived in York County. For researchers
of German immigrant ancestors who settled in Pennsylvania and
their descendants, this database can provide valuable vital
statistics not available in other records.
Source Information: Lineages,
Inc., comp. "York County, Pennsylvania, 1733-1800: Christ
Evangelical Lutheran Church." [database online] Provo, UT:
Ancestry. com, 2000. Original data: Hertzog, F. J. C. "Records,
Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church, City of York, York County,
Pennsylvania, 1733-1800." Manuscript by the translator, 1919.
_________________________
Larry Dean is hiring a researcher
to find the will/probate of Michael Shively who died
1778-1780 ish. If he can find this document, we should clear up
a lot of this.
Inherent to this research were the
Harding family. There was a Hardin and Harding family and they
were part of this group. So the names are spelled Hardin,
Harden, Harding and it took a while to sort them out.
We know from research in Indiana
that Dean had married Hannah Harding. By following the
paper trail, we then knew that Hannah was the sister of Abraham
Harding. They lived next door on Scotts Mill Run to Michael
Shively, Sr.
Michael Shively, the immigrant, landed in Philadelphia in
1738. ( proven by passenger lists and oaths of allegiance. He
was a German and not to be confused with the Swiss Shivelys.)
That daughter listed as born in
Maryland cannot be his. And, I don't know where Margaret Smith
got that.
He married Christina Kessler in
York PA. 1743. Proven, church records listed above.
Children were born and baptized in
York, PA 1746-1759. Proven church records listed above.
They moved to Falling Waters which
was Frederick Co, VA, now Berkely WVA. 1766 proven by leases from
Lord Fairfax.
1774, Michael is in Scotts Mill
Run which was PA, then VA, then WVA. proven by deeds.
1778, Michael sells his land in
Berkely to his son Christian. On some of these records,
Christiana is mentioned and on others, Hannah is mentioned.
Proven by deeds.
1778-1780 Michael dies as he drops
off records. WE NEED TO FIND HIS WILL OR PROBATE INVENTORY OR
SOMETHING. THIS IS WHAT LARRY DEAN IS NOW HOPING TO FIND BY
HIRING A RESSEARCHER.
1788 Sons of Michael Shively,
receive inheritance on Scotts Mill Run. This land is adjacent to
Abraham Harding, brother of Hannah.
1792 Sons of Michael Shively are
living with Richard Dean in KY.
1803, Shively sons and Deans move
to Breckenridge KY.
1807-1810, One Shively son and
Deans enter land in Indiana.
Basically, we can account for 4
sons born to first marriage w/ Christiana.
3 sons born to second wife Hannah
Harding.
then, Hannah Harding Shively
married Richard Dean and we can account for 3 Dean sons.
Also, I do not believe that story
of Daniel Boone and Shively. I cannot find Daniel Boone in PA
with any of that group.
I believe Henry Shively hooked up
with the Bantas in York Co., PA and was at Harrod's Fort and not
associated with Danile Boone. But of course I could be wrong.
I think we have to prove the 2nd
marriage of Michael to Hannah and also prove Hannah's marriage
to Richard Dean. Since no marriage records exist, we have to
find something in the probate records.
But, I'll bet the ranch on it. As
these people were all together in Scotts Mill Run at the same
time.
I'm attaching some of my notes, I
hope these don't confuse you, but it may help to see that we are
hoping to get to the bottom of this.
It will be up to a good researcher
to find something in the wills. It is important to note that
people thought they were living in PA and it was VA, then became
WV. So, while the land didn't move, the county and state lines
moved and it will take some digging to find records, if they
exist at all.
Amelia
We believe
1. Michael Schieffle Shively married Christiana Kessler first
and Hannah Harding, second. Then Hannah Harding Shively married
Richard Dean. We found the 3 Shively boys born of Hannah and
Michael in the same household with Dean and his sons. One of the
next generation of Shively's named his daughter Hannah Dean
Shively.
PDF
Version of notes
York County, Pennsylvania Wills,
1749-1819 Record
about Christiana Kessler
Name: Christiana Kessler
Description: Daughter
Date: 25 Feb 1797
Prove Date: 20 Feb 1804
Remarks: Michael Kessler. Feb 25, 1797. Executors: George
Fackenroth. Cordorus Township. Wife: Magdalena Kessler.
Children: Michael and Christiana.
According to records on Ancestry, the Christiana Kessler above
married a John Lucas, and she was born in 1824; so she is
probably not ours...
Descendants of Michael Scheifele
Shively
1 Michael Scheifele Shively b: Abt. 1717 in Germany d: Abt. 1780
in Virginia
.. +Christiana Maria Kessler b: Abt. 1725 m: May 17, 1743 in
Christ Lutheran Church, York, Pennsylvania d: Bef. 1768
2 John Christian Shively b: October 25, 1746 in
Manheim Township, York County, PA (formerly Lancaster County) d: Bef. February 06, 1826 in Jefferson County, Kentucky
............. +Anna Mary Bashore b: February 10, 1755 in Bethel
Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania m: 1767 in Berkeley,
West Virginia d: in Jefferson County, Kentucky
2 John Shively b: April 14, 1749 in York County,
Pennsylvania d: 1784 in Killed by Indians Henry County, Kentucky
(we are not sure he was killed by Indians now)
2 John Jacob Shively b: July 09, 1751 in York County,
Pennsylvania ( WE BELIEVE THIS ONE STAYED IN THE VA/PA AREA)
......... 2 John Heinrich "Henry" Shively b: January 27, 1759 in
York County, Pennsylvania d: June 14, 1842 in Syria, Orange
County, Indiana
............. +Mary Banta b: March 29, 1767 in Somerset, New
Jersey m: March 15, 1783 in Harrodsburg, Mercer County, Kentucky
d: December 16, 1844 in Orange County, Indiana
*2nd Wife of Michael Scheifele Shively:
.. +Hannah Harding b: 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey m: 1768
d: in Perry County, Indiana, daughter of Redstone Harding.
2 John Shively b: 1770 d: Abt. 1807
............. +Susannah Hayden b: October 10, 1774 in St Mary's
County, Maryland m: October 10, 1794 in Washington County,
Kentucky
2 Jacob Shively b: 1772 in Pennsylvania d: Abt. 1851
............. +Sophia Davis b: 1779 in Maryland m: September 17,
1799 in Green County, Kentucky
2 Michael Shively b: 1776
............. +Nancy Payne b: Abt. 1775 in Virginia m: January
06, 1797 in Washington County, Kentucky d: May 1850 in Kentucky
THEN, Hannah married Richard Dean:
Descendants of Hannah Harding
*2nd Husband of [1] Hannah Harding:
+Richard Dean b: Abt. 1755 m: Abt. 1778 Father: Unknown Dean
died Perry Co., Indiana
2 [2] William Dean b: Abt. 1780 Pennsylvania d: Abt. 1830 Perry
County, Indiana
+Unknown
*2nd Wife of [2] William Dean:
+Ary Shirley b: Bet. 1780 - 1790 Pennsylvania d: Aft. 1836 Perry
County, Indiana Burial: Walker Cemetery, Branchville, Indiana m:
01 June 1807 in Knox, Indiana Father: Unknown Shirley Mother:
Delilah Phillips
2 Stephen Dean b: 1786 Virginia
+Susannah Springer b: 1784 Maryland m: 10 August 1815 in Perry
County, Indiana Father: Edward Springer Mother: Elizabeth
Creager
2 Richard Dean b: Abt. 1788 d: 06 August 1849 Perry County,
Indiana
+Mary Dawson b: 1788 Bedford County, Virginia d: Aft. 1855 Perry
County, Indiana m: 20 June 1805 in Joseph Smith, Minister, at
Mouth of Wolf Creek, Hardin County, Kentucky Father: Jeremiah
Dawson Mother: Nancy Agnes Dollard
Some of the Germans named the sons
Johann Middle name after godfather and grandfather.
Some would have Joseph Middle name and so on.
Some made sure 3 sons were named after wise men: Casper, Balthasar
and Melchior.
Some had females Anna Maria, Anna Margaretha, Anna Ludovica and on
and on.
I think you have picked up on something here.
Michael Shiefele Shively was German, Lutheran.
Kessler was German, Lutheran
Hannah Harding was Baptist and came from that group who were banned
in New Jersey and following Roger Williams into Rhode Island because
of religion.
Dean? he's a mystery and fell out of the sky to Scotts Mill Run
about 1780. He could have been a British soldier who became American
or an indentured servant. He does not connect to any Dean families
and this was confirmed by DNA testing.
I would say Dean had no religion. He does not turn up in any of the
church records.
But, Michael Shively and Christiana Kessler spoke German, all the
records from York, PA are in German. Their sons had to speak German
and so also Hannah Harding and Dean had some remnants of German
language and then moved into Kentucky.
Hannah Harding Shively Dean turns up in the primitive Baptist
records along with many of the Hardings.
Basically PA was settled by many Germans and even George Washington
had to learn the language.
And, none of the Shivelys or Deans turn up in the Revolutionary
records. We have to assume they did not fight. On the other hand,
they may have been Tories as they had leased lands from Lord Fairfax
through all of this.
You will read about Lord Fairfax in the stuff I sent you.
Amelia
Wasn't Larry Shively descended
from John Shively, brother to my Christian, and if so, he has
never found anything on his being in the Revolution?
Larry Shively's John was a 1/2 brother to Christian. There was a
John in the first marriage to Christiana b. 1749 and a second
John b. about 1772.
The John in the Revolution and in the transcription was the one
b. 1749, son of Michael and Christina.
As I see it, Michael was the father of
Christian - Your line
John - Rev soldier Tennessee
Henry - Margaret Smith's line
Jacob - most likely the one killed by Indians
and then
John - Larry Shively's line
Michael - another KY line
Jacob - another KY line
these 3 Shively's on 1792 tax
list. They are in the household of Richard Dean:
Shively, Jacob
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1
white male over 21, no land
1795 tax list of Jefferson Co. KY - 100 acres on Mill Creek,
Jefferson Co. KY
(no count of tithables on this list - just land)
Shively, John
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1
white male over 21, no land
Shively, Michael
1792 tax list of Nelson Co. KY - John McMahon's District - 1
white male over 21, 1 16-21, no land
Amelia
The list of land owners:
The name Harding, Hardin, Harden has been a nightmare to sort
out.
The Hardin's were French Huegonots and Church of England.
The Hardings were Baptists who were in New Jersey, then forced
out to Rhode Island and then one group came to PA.
These two families intermarried which made it more difficult to
sort out.
But,
Abraham Harding and Stephen Harding on the list and living at
Scotts Mill Run were brothers to Hannah Harding Shively Dean. I
found all of them at the Great Bethel Baptist church. They all
moved on to Pitman Creek in KY along with the 3 Shively boys.
And, found them as active members of the Pitman Creek Baptist
Church.
I don't think anyone has sorted out who this Philip Shively was
who died in 1841.
After the Revolution and after the Indians were under control, a
lot of land grants were given to settle Kentucky. Many went
there because PA and VA outlawed slavery.
Many of the Hardings and Hardens had been in Kentucky to stake
claims in early 1780s. So, a lot of these land grants were
settlement claims. These were Indian fighters.
Because there are these two Shively groups, i.e. Swiss and
Michael and because these Hardings, Hardens, Hardins were all in
the same areas, it becomes a nightmare.
So, i'm just focusing on Michael and trying to prove he had two
wives and 4 sons from Christina and 3 sons from Hannah. One
would think there were daughters, but of course, unless we find
a will, this will never be known.
With all of the boundary changes in States, counties and so on,
will or probate information could be in VA, WV, PA, MD.
Let's hope Larry Dean's researcher finds something.
Ship Passenger List
Saint Andrew Oct. 27, 1738
Palatines, ship Saint Andrew, John Stedman, Master, from
Rotterdam, last from Plymouth. - 300 passengers.
Peter Light *
Jost Schumacher
Hanner Hoffer
Stephan Ackerman
Conrad Nagel
Andreas Sin
Reinhart Bene *
Martin Dellinger
Christoph Berger
Martin Schwartz
Wilhelm Risser
Christian Heinrich
Hans Wisler
Peter Bohm
Michael Messer
Johannes Hertt
Henrich Sauer
Christopher Leiss
Jacob Ottiner
Andreas Wacker *
Michael Syder *
Johannes Ambrecht *
Vite Ambrecht *
Johannes Utzman
Johannes Greber
Jacob Beyer
Jacob Stern
Henrich Hoffman
Christian Meyer *
Mattheus Hirt
Lorentz Kriger
Johannes Althauss
Johan Georg Kiehl
Johann Henrich Ertz
Frantz Herman Diel
Manus Sassemanhaus
Johan Jacob Kehler
Johan Georg Grauell
Johan Conrad Bittenbender
Johan Peter Spiess
Joh. Christopher Kintzel
Hans Jacob Kunerein *
Georg Conrad Schreier
Friederich Buckenmeyer
Joh. Arnold Shroder
Michael Hiltenbrandt
Philip Martin Fusel
Georg Bernhart Lauman
Hans Jacob Kattermann
Hans Michael Schyver
Adam Hambrecht
Michael Scheissle
Hans Casper Hindertruther
Hans Jacob Brauss
John Peter Voyzin
Georg Nicolas Mayer
Joahnnes Althaus
Johan christ. Altoch
Bastian Bremer
Berdolf Meyer
Johannes Bosfeld *
Johannes Hoffman
Johannes Mercher
Johan K. Roser
Daneil Bibighaus
Johan Georg Althaus
Conrad Hambrecht
Hans Martin Waltz
Johan Georg Weber
Jost William Blucher
Sick
Johannes Krieve
Casper Hukabach
Viet. Walter
Christ. Wagner
Wesis Vansant
Simon Derrick
Jacob Walter
Johan Schenkel
Anthon Kinter
Samuel Beem
Peter Yosey
Christian Sauder
Georg Grevener
Christian Trewett
Henrich Behn
Elias Balk
Hans Ulrich Katerman
Hans Michael Sheffer
Christian Stein Claither
Thomas Everhard
Hans Philip Smith
Martin Adam Brows
Ulrich Tow
Hans Georg Webber
Johan Veveling
Georg Bibifhaus
Andreas Genberger
Jacob Welsh
Johan Heinrich Hoffman
Johan Jacob Wagner
Lloyd Zachary and Th. Bond, physicians, stated in a
certificate, under date of Oct 27, 1738: "We have
carefully examined the state of health of the marines
and passsengers on board of the ship St. Andrew, Captain
Stedman, from Rotterdam, and found a great number
laboring under a malignant, eruptive fever, and are of
the opinion, they cannot, for some time, be landed in
town without the danger of infecting the inhabitants."
Source: A Collection of upwards of Thirty Thousand Names
of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other Immigrants in
Pennsylvania From 1727 to 1776; Prof. I. Daniel Rupp,
Second Revised Edition, 1876, Philadelphia; pp.94-97.
We are trying
to figure out if Michael's land was in Fayette, PA or
Monongalia, WV.
I went to Riley's book on the Hardin/Harding families
and found this.
Monongalia County, Virginia
1. Deed Book A., Page 251. April 1796 -- Stephen Harding
of State of Kentucky sells by his attorney Abraham
Harding 196 1/2 acres on Scotts Mill Run in Monongalia
County, Virginia, to John Downer for 20 pounds; land
adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin; recorded May 1796.
2, Deed Book B., Page 23. 14 Mary 1796---Abraham Harden
( also Hardin, Harding). and his wife, Sarah Harden sell
702 acres to Coverdale Cole for 875 pounds; 2 tracts on
Scotts Mill Run: 1) 400 acres of land granted to said
Abraham Hardin by Commonwealth patent bearing date of 1
May 1784; 2) 302 acres in Monongalia County granted to
John Shively by patent 8 July 1788 and conveyed by deed
to Abraham Hardin on 15 March 1792; recorded September
1796.
This looks like John Shively, s/o Michael became owner
of that land in 1788. ( most likely when he reached
legal age? Or, was this the settlement that had to be
made after the Revolution?) Then, it looks like he
signed over the deed to Abraham Harding in 1792. And,
then it looks like Abraham sold this in 1796.
So, what is the deal about the power of attorney in 1803
to sell the land? Maybe this sale in 1796 was on
contract with Cole and he didn't pay up? NO... Cole
remained there. Was there more land other than the 302
acres on Scotts Mill Run?
This also matches when Richard Dean et al moved to KY in
1792 and also when Abraham went to KY in 1796/97.
I followed up on Cole....
ID: I550383799
Name: Coverdale COLE
Given Name: Coverdale
Surname: Cole
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1750
Death: Bet 13 Dec 1830 and Feb 1831 in Monongalia Co.,
VA
Note:
Coverdale co-administered settlement of Ananias Hudson's
estate. On May
1, 1790 Coverdale had Sussex Grant land surveyed in
Cedar Creek, Sussex
Co., Delaware, "Cole's Good Intent," adjacent Daniel
Davis, Silvester
Debuty and Henry, Joseph and Benjamin Hudson. On June 8,
1795 Coverdale
and Sophia sold this Shuffle Branch Land. He moved to
Monongalia Co., VA
by March 2, 1796, when he made a deposition for District
Court evidence.
In Cass District, monongalia Co., Coverdale bought
nearly 900 acres by
March 1797, of which he and Sophia sold part June 1798
to John Willey, a
former Sussex neighbor, and distributed the rest to
their children.
Source: J. Longley
Marriage 1 Sophia POYNTER b: Abt 1740 in Monongalia Co.,
VA
Married: Bef 3 Mar 1781 in Sussex Co., Delaware
To add to the confusion, I found this about the
boundaries of WV, VA and PA.
Monongalia County is known as the mother county for
northern West Virginia because many other counties were
created from its original territory. The precise number
is difficult to determine because the original county's
boundaries fell along watersheds which shifted over
time. However, at least thirteen West Virginia counties
were created in whole, and perhaps as many as eighteen
West Virginia counties were created either in whole or
in part, from Monongalia County. Moreover, parts of
Greene, Fayette and Washington counties in Pennsylvania
also were created from the county. The Pennsylvania
counties were carved from Monongalia County when the
Mason-Dixon line was accepted as defining the borders of
Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. That approval
process began in 1779, and was officially agreed to by
the three states in 1784.
Conclusion: Larry's researcher has to find a probate
record of some kind for Michael Shively. 1778-1780 ish.
Amelia Lord Fairfax usually gave
grants of 400 acres. Michael, the immigrant applied for
that grant way back in 1762-1763. He sold his land in
York, PA. There was a problem with that survey and he
wound up with 245 acres in Berkely.
Living close to Michael was the Bernard Boesharr/
Bashore family.
Michael's oldest son Christian married Anna Mary
Bashore.
In 1778 Michael signed over acreage to Christian and
also to Joseph Mitchell. (I suspect Jos. Mitchell was a
relative, maybe a son-in-law?)
Before 1778, Micheal entered land in Scott Mill Run in
Fayette, PA. That land was next door to Abraham Harding
who had a sister, Hannah Harding.
So, it's easy to see that Michael left Berkely land in
charge of his sons. We know Christian was there and also
John was there until 1776 and he joined the Army and
returned to Berkeley in 1783.
My guess is Michael was sick and was settling his
affairs in 1778. He drops off the loop after that.
So, Michael the immigrant had land first in York County
PA, then Berkely, VA, then Scott Mill Run or Fayette,
PA.
When it says he "made a settlement" ...that means he
most likely had lived on the land and improved it. When
he could show he lived there and improved it, he applied
for a patent or deed to the land.
Well, why did Michael settle on land in PA when he had
the land in Berkely? That we don't know.
And, the often asked question is why did these people
moved from VA and PA to Kentucky? It appears that had
plenty of land and so on?? Slaves. Slavery was outlawed
in VA and PA.
Also tobackee. They had overproduced tobacco land, in
fact had burned it up in VA.
So the lure of better economics in Kentucky was most
likely the reason: tobackee.
I wonder also about religion. Usually after economics
comes the religious angle, usually with Germans. And,
Germans are opposed to slavery.
then, there were Indian raids in both PA and VA. This
might have contributed to the movement west.
So, this search raises a lot of questions. Maybe we can
get some answers.
The Michael in that article was the grandson of Philip,
son of Michael, the immigrant. The immigrant, Michael Schiefele or Shively was born in 1717. There is no way
we can find his birth and his parentage. Most records in
Germany were destroyed during the many wars they had.
Someone on the internet has hooked him to a parent with
no proof.
I would not doubt that John and Jacob were in Dunmore's
war. It appears John joined the Revolution from Berkely
and Jacob most likely was scouting with the Hardins in
Kentucky. He married in 1800 in Kentucky.
Here is an outline of Philip's family. Yes, Philip also
made a settlement in 1774 at Scots Mill Run, most likely
with his father. I would guess they were there maybe a
few years earlier.
As the generations appear, we're finding all kinds of
Johns, Jacobs, Michaels.
And, the problem is, the Swiss group also had the same
names.
Descendants of Possibly Philip Shively (son of Michale,
brother to Christian?)
1 Philip Shively b: Bet. 1753 - 1757 in Lancaster PA or
Berkely WVA d: July 1841 in Monongalia, WV
.. +Appolonia Abba Back b: 1763 in Fayette, Pennsylvania
m: 1778 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania d: Bef. 1841 in
Monongalia, WV
......... 2 Elizabeth Betsy Shively
......... 2 Polly Mary Shively
......... 2 Catherine Shively b: 1783 in Monongalia, WV
d: February 11, 1862 in Marion, West Virginia
............. +Samuel Basnett b: 1776 in Delaware m:
December 13, 1802 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: July
06, 1852 in Marion, West Virginia
......... 2 John Shively b: February 05, 1786 in
Monongalia, WV d: January 16, 1833 in Rush, Indiana
............. +Theresa Scott b: Bet. 1789 - 1794 in
Monongalia, WV m: September 26, 1809 in Monongalia, West
Virginia d: 1860 in Paola, Miami County, Kansas
......... 2 Jacob Shively b: February 11, 1787 in
Monongalia, WV d: March 04, 1869 in Monongalia, WV
............. +Catherine Pickenpaugh b: January 11, 1794
m: Abt. 1813 in Monongalia, West Virginia d: November
15, 1869 in Monongalia, WV
......... 2 Michael Shively b: 1788
............. +Catherine Toothman b: 1790
.................... 3 Michael Shively b: May 17, 1807
in Monongalia, WV d: April 12, 1900 in Yorktown,
Delaware, Indiana
........................ +Kesiah Laboyteaux b: January
04, 1814 in Mt. Pleasant, Hamilton County, Ohio m: May
10, 1832 in Mt. Pleasant, Hamilton County, Ohio d:
November 12, 1860 in New Castle, Indiana
......... 2 Philip Shively b: May 10, 1790 in
Monongalia, WV d: October 26, 1872 in Henry, Indiana
............. +Margaret Tribbet b: October 21, 1800 in
Delaware m: 1824 d: February 21, 1876 in Henry, Indiana
......... 2 Sarah Shively b: 1797 in Monongalia, WV d:
Bet. 1841 - 1847 in Henry, Indiana
............. +Benjamin Thomas b: 1798 m: April 11, 1814
in Monongalia, West Virginia d: June 1863 in Henry,
Indiana
......... 2 Henry Shively b: 1799 in Monongalia, WV
............. +Matilda Pickenpaugh b: 1814 in
Monongalia, WV m: 1838 in Monongalia, West Virginia
......... 2 Abigail Shively b: 1800 in Monongalia, WV d:
December 11, 1856 in Poor House, Monongalia, WV
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I will probably only add to the
confusion (smile) but will share what I have. I agree with your
comments on the transfer of the 302 acres in Monongalia County from
Michael Shively to John Shively to Abraham Harding. I am inclined to
believe from the information you have found and shared that the
first information regarding this tract of land may have had
something to do with settlement after the Revolution (when John
Shively, heir of Michael, comes into possession of the land). After
the 1792 sale to Abraham Harding it appears that John Shively
purchased land in Green County, KY and his brothers, Michael and
Jacob, lived on land from what I would say were bought with profits
from the sale of the Monongalia land.
The power of attorney for Michael and Jacob has been a source of
confusion from the first time I saw it. The power of attorney does
specify that the land was in Fayette County, PA on GEORGES CREEK. I
believe that the Hardens or Hardings owned land on this same creek.
I have never been able to figure out what this was "all about".
I did make it to the Newberry last Saturday and looked through the
deed indexes for Berkeley County. I believe the researcher that
originally shared the information on these deeds was focused only on
Michael Shively and Christian Shively. There are deeds for Daniel
Shiveley (Shively) and John Shively that will need to be looked at.
I am going back to the Newberry this afternoon to order the film for
the Deed Books so that we will have copies of the actual deeds. I
ordered the film for the wills but I could not find any Shively
records. I had also ordered the loose papers (probate) for the
letter "S" but there was no Shively info on this film. I had the
film for appraisals, inventories, etc and could not find any Shively
info. I believe there may be another roll of film related to
inventories because the 2 rolls I looked at were from the 1930's
Works project. The two rolls of film on inventories I looked at were
inventories extracted from the will books.
Larry Shively
On Jul 4, 2006, at 11:22 AM, MBPKelly@aol.com wrote:
We are trying to figure out if Michael's land was in Fayette, PA or
Monongalia, WV.
I went to Riley's book on the Hardin/Harding families and found
this.
Monongalia County, Virginia
1. Deed Book A., Page 251. April 1796 -- Stephen Harding of State of
Kentucky sells by his attorney Abraham Harding 196 1/2 acres on
Scotts Mill Run in Monongalia County, Virginia, to John Downer for
20 pounds; land adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin; recorded May
1796.
2, Deed Book B., Page 23. 14 Mary 1796---Abraham Harden ( also
Hardin, Harding). and his wife, Sarah Harden sell 702 acres to
Coverdale Cole for 875 pounds; 2 tracts on Scotts Mill Run: 1) 400
acres of land granted to said Abraham Hardin by Commonwealth patent
bearing date of 1 May 1784; 2) 302 acres in Monongalia County
granted to John Shively by patent 8 July 1788 and conveyed by deed
to Abraham Hardin on 15 March 1792; recorded September 1796.
This looks like John Shively, s/o Michael became owner of that land
in 1788. ( most likely when he reached legal age? Or, was this the
settlement that had to be made after the Revolution?) Then, it looks
like he signed over the deed to Abraham Harding in 1792. And, then
it looks like Abraham sold this in 1796.
So, what is the deal about the power of attorney in 1803 to sell the
land? Maybe this sale in 1796 was on contract with Cole and he
didn't pay up? NO... Cole remained there. Was there more land other
than the 302 acres on Scotts Mill Run?
This also matches when Richard Dean et al moved to KY in 1792 and
also when Abraham went to KY in 1796/97.
I followed up on Cole....
ID: I550383799
Name: Coverdale COLE
Given Name: Coverdale
Surname: Cole
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1750
Death: Bet 13 Dec 1830 and Feb 1831 in Monongalia Co., VA
Note:
Coverdale co-administered settlement of Ananias Hudson's estate. On
May
1, 1790 Coverdale had Sussex Grant land surveyed in Cedar Creek,
Sussex
Co., Delaware, "Cole's Good Intent," adjacent Daniel Davis,
Silvester
Debuty and Henry, Joseph and Benjamin Hudson. On June 8, 1795
Coverdale
and Sophia sold this Shuffle Branch Land. He moved to Monongalia
Co., VA
by March 2, 1796, when he made a deposition for District Court
evidence.
In Cass District, monongalia Co., Coverdale bought nearly 900 acres
by
March 1797, of which he and Sophia sold part June 1798 to John
Willey, a
former Sussex neighbor, and distributed the rest to their children.
Source: J. Longley
Marriage 1 Sophia POYNTER b: Abt 1740 in Monongalia Co., VA
Married: Bef 3 Mar 1781 in Sussex Co., Delaware
To add to the confusion, I found this about the boundaries of WV, VA
and PA.
Monongalia County is known as the mother county for northern West
Virginia because many other counties were created from its original
territory. The precise number is difficult to determine because the
original county's boundaries fell along watersheds which shifted
over time. However, at least thirteen West Virginia counties were
created in whole, and perhaps as many as eighteen West Virginia
counties were created either in whole or in part, from Monongalia
County. Moreover, parts of Greene, Fayette and Washington counties
in Pennsylvania also were created from the county. The Pennsylvania
counties were carved from Monongalia County when the Mason-Dixon
line was accepted as defining the borders of Maryland, Virginia, and
Pennsylvania. That approval process began in 1779, and was
officially agreed to by the three states in 1784.
Conclusion: Larry's researcher has to find a probate record of some
kind for Michael Shively. 1778-1780 ish.
Amelia
Larry,
Thanks for the update.
My researcher in Fayette Co., (Uniontown), may help us clear up some
of this confusion if she can find the probate record of Michael
Shively.
But aside from that, I don't know if any of you are as confused as I
am regarding the basic geography, present day and historical, of the
area we are focussing on. I have asked Vicki to determine exactly
where Scotts Mill Run and Georges Creek were (they might have been
different designations for the same place) and to establish where
the records pertaining to it/them are located. They could be in
several different locations depending upon the date of the event
recorded. Apparently it was not such a simple matter as turning over
all the old records in the old political division to the new one
superseding it. And since the area we are searching overlaps state
lines, the confusion escalates. As you know, there were major
boundary disputes between PA and VA. And, in some instances MD and
OH seem to have been involved. In one search a few years ago, Vicki
eventually found everything she was looking for in MD even though
the client was convinced she should be looking in VA.
An added twist is the fact that CT once had a strip of land in that
area extending all the say to present day Ohio. I believe it was
called the Western Reserve. And that doesn't even take into account
the added confusion when WV became a state.
So, for me, just trying to understand the geographical implications
has been a major problem. Hopefully, my researcher will begin to
clear this up.
But I can't help but believe that our combined efforts will
eventually lead to some major discoveries regarding the Deans and
Shivelys. And, since I seem to be getting a day older every
twenty-four period that passes, I hope it happens quickly. At this
point I have outlived my father, his father, and his father, and
have to go back to my g-g-grandfather, John, to find a direct
paternal ancestor who lived longer than I have so far. Hopefully I
received a healthy dose of his longevity genes, but I'm taking
nothing for granted. As the saying goes, there are no guarantees. I
am about to celebrate(?) the 50th anniversary of my high school
graduation later this fall. And just this past month, two of my old
schoolmates who would have attended, died. One a prominent lawyer,
and uncle of Tom Cruise, the other a prominent surgeon. And while
I'm a bit sad at their parting, I'm at least comforted by the fact
that the world has one less lawyer to contend with.
Larry Dean
I received a letter from Margaret Smith. She had some questions
about the Hardings, but note this:
"In a list of Rangers in Westmoreland County, PA, during the years
1777-1783, ABRAHAM HARDING, EDEN HARDEN AND JOHN HARDEN, plus HENRY
SHIVELY are named. All but Eden Harden are found in Capt. Nicholas
Shinn's Company. In the few pages I have from the 1783 tax list for
Springhill Twp, there were a number of Capt. Shinn's men. I believe
this Henry Shively could be mine."
IF Abraham Harding was involved, Hannah was not far away. And, these
years 1777-1783 are important to finding Hannah and Richard Dean and
the Shively and Dean boys and possibly a probate record of Michael
Shively. Possibly Dean was part of these Rangers. My guess is they
were not Continental forces and were entitled to bounty land.
I've tried to find Capt. Shinn on the internet and no luck. We know
that Fayette County was created from Westmoreland County, so we do
need to find out what we can about this Capt. Shinn. I found only
one reference to him which was not helpful.
Larry Shively: Do you have anything on this?
Larry Dean: Looks like this information should be given to Vicki.
And, if she does not have anything, then the parent county,
Westmoreland may have to be searched.
Amelia
Hi Cat,
I have not seen that particular one, but it's the Bashores for sure.
There is just so much out there.
What really needs to be done is for someone to do a complete
genealogy of Michael Shively and his descendants. It would involve a
lot of research, following the movements of this family year after
year, records after record and so on.
I did that in order to write my family genealogy. It took 20 years
to document this and write this and publish it.
We can only get so much from what is on the internet and what others
have done. In order to do a complete genealogy, the allied families
also have to be done.
As far as I can see, there has been work done, but it all needs to
be pulled together and then go back and find what's missing.
A big job for someone.
Like Margaret Smith said.....she figured Michael never left
Berkeley. Now we find he owned 2 parcels of land: one in Scotts Mill
and another in Georges Creek.
Amelia
Ladies and Gentleman,
Here's the latest from Vicki. I
have just returned from a weekend trip to Memphis and have not
looked very closely at this yet. I don't know where this leaves
us at this point. I expect to be receiving her report shorly and
we'll decide how to proceed.
Regards to all,
Larry D.
July 24, 2006
Legacy Books
Larry Dean
3019 Kaye Lawn Dr.
Louisville, KY 40220
Dear Larry:
Greetings. Thank you for inviting
me to be a part of your Dean and Shively research once again. I
have been trying to locate the Georges Creek property records
beyond 1803. I have not been able to come up with an earlier
deed. I searched for a reference from the following resources
without locating the Dean or Shively surname: Two Lists of
Early Residents in South Western Pennsylvania Those
Holding Virginia Grants 1779-1785 & Signers of a Petition to
Form a New State Compiled by Helen L. Harriss, CG., This
source included a great map illustrating the boundary
controversy between PA & VA. Old Springhill by Emma
Dean Anderson, (no index), 1938, Sheriff's Deed Books
1785-, Continuance Dockets from the Office of the
Prothonotary 1783-, Records of West Augusta & Yohogania
County prepared under the direction of the Uniontown Public
Library 1936, (John Snively listed). I searched Pennsylvania
Marriages prior to 1790.Marriages were not recorded early
on in the Fayette County Courthouse. Some PA marriages are
published in the Second Series of the Pa Archives Harrisburg
Volume II.
A search was conducted of
Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files Vol.
I: A-E Abstracted by Virgil D. White. Westmoreland Co.
Pa. in 1783 compiled by Shirley McQuIlis copyright 1983 by
SW Genealogical Services lists Benjamin Dean Richard Dean,
Christopher, John and Phillip Shively as early inhabitants
there. As I mentioned, I have located references to Scott's Mill
Run and I have copies of early maps to send to you. References
will be from The Monongalia Story, A Bicentennial History
by Earl L. Core, McClain Printing Co. Parsons, West Va.
Westward of Ye Laurel Hills 1750-1850 by Helen Vogt, 1976
has a sketch of a watermark concerning Jacob Shively estate sale
bill for May 26, 1760. Court records at West Virginia
University Library in Morgantown.
The 1772 Tax Assessment Rolls
Taxes Due to Bedford County By Residents of Westmoreland County,
which was Separated From Bedford County in 1773 including
Territory which later became Fayette County in 1783 part of
Springhill, Tyrone and in 1784 part of Rostraver, Springhill
Twp. page 48 lists John Shively.
The 1798 Direct Tax List or
Window Tax List of Fayette County, Pa, micro-film roll 23
Second Assessment of the District Vols. 697-702, National
Archives Roll 372-23 Washington 1962. Lists John Shively in a
log cabbin 20 by 26 feet, and a John Dean is listed as an
occupant of a log cabbin and Sally Simpson is the owner.
The Index to Fayette Wills
by Bob and Mary Closson, (you may have this information) Dean,
Caleb 1842
Edward 1898
John 1849
John 1842
John Shively was the Tax Assessor in
Springhill Twp. Fayette County during the 1819s into the 1820s.
I will follow up on tracing back his property records and the
acquisition of the property. He was also a farmer. I am also
sending you the Index to the Colonial Records compiled
by Dr. Mary Dunn. The index lists Deans as well as Shivelys. I
have searched numerous unpublished sources in the Pennsylvania
Room hoping to locate Revolutionary War references. I will
continue to check for County records for you.
Once again, thank you.
Sincerely,
Vicki J. Leonelli
July 17, 2006
Dear Margaret,
I’ve been out of town or would have answered your letter sooner.
So, I’ll attempt to answer your questions.
Yes, we knew that the names HANNAH and CHRISTIANA were on the
deeds in 1778. This was just another bit of evidence that Hannah
Harding was a wife of Michael Shively.
Just this past few days we became aware that Michael Shively
owned another piece of land. This land was on Georges Creek in
Fayette County, PA. In 1803, Michael and Jacob Shively from Green
County Kentucky gave power of attorney to William Kelso to sell that
land. We are following up with the researcher to see if she can go
back and find when Michael Shively bought that land.
So, Michael owned land in York County, PA, Berkely, WVA (
originally Frederick Co, VA), Scotts Mill Run, Mononagalia and also
Georges Creek in Fayette, PA. We know when the York land was sold,
also the Berkely land in 1778, the Scotts Mill Run land was sold in
1792 to Abraham Harding by John, son of Hannah and now we find the
Georges Creek land sold by sons Michael and Jacob, sons of Hannah.
The three sons of Hannah were listed as heirs of Michael Shively.
What the researcher needs to find is a will or probate inventory or
something regarding Michael Shively. This should definitely be the
one piece of primary evidence needed to prove all of this.
It appears Michael had three wives: 1) mother of Dorothea, born
in Maryland, 2) Christiana Kessler, mother of Christian, John,
Jacob, Henry and Phillip and 3) Hannah Harding, mother of John,
Michael and Jacob. It is strange that sons of this last marriage had
the same names as the children of the 2nd marriage, but
they also may have had middle names. I’m also including Philip as a
son of Michael as the DNA results from descendants of Philip match
those other descendants of Michael Shively.
I hope Catherine Monticue sent you the transcription of the
Revolutionary pension application of John, son of Michael and
Christiana, born 1749. I’ve mailed in a request to the Tennessee
State Archives to find the transfer of the land that John Shively
bought. We now know that this John bought Ocoee Indian land in
Tennessee around 1841 and 1842, Bradley County, Tennessee and there
are two deeds. We know nothing about this John and hopefully I can
find a wife and descendants. He was on the 1830 census and no later
census. But, we know he was alive in 1845 at age 95.
This John Shively was also involved in a law suit with Peter
Light (Leight) in Berkely, but I don’t have the details. However, if
John Shively owned land in Ocoee, Bradley County, Tennessee, there
has to be a will or probate inventory and action after he died or, a
transfer of land. If and when I get more information, I’ll make sure
you get it.
I’m enclosing a printout of what I have on the Hardings. On page
2 is a map of the Baptist Churches in that area. The Hardings were
originally from New Jersey and were part of that primitive Baptist
group. They moved into Rhode Island to escape from the Church of
England. One of the sons, John Redstone Harding, moved his family to
Redstone area, Pennsylvania about 1762. I’m guessing that’s how he
got the nickname. To sum it up, one branch of the Harding family
moved to Redstone. From there they purchased more land. And all
eventually wound up in Kentucky.
You may be wondering why I’ve been looking at churches. I have
had good luck finding my ancestors through Church records. I was
hoping by checking out the possible religions of this group, I may
find more. Michael Shively was Lutheran and the rest of these folks
were far removed from established religions. But, I have to conclude
that by the time these folks got to Kentucky, they were either
Baptist or Methodist. We also have to consider that the Shively’s
understood and spoke German. Thus, even the grandchildren of Michael
had to have some knowledge of the language. But, that has not led me
to anything either.
You mentioned in your letter a Capt. Nicholas Shin’s Company of
Rangers. I’ve tried to find this man in my internet sources and can
find nothing. I’m enclosing an envelope. Please send me what you
have on the company of Rangers and I’ll track more of this down.
This is a clue which needs to be pursued.
The report I’m sending you is what is in my computer. No attempt
has been made to make sure it is acceptable English language. It’s
just a bunch of data. And, I have a feeling, you’ve seen most of
this. This report does show how Larry Dean is related. And Larry has
been the one stirring up the pot, determined to find his ancestors
before they came to Kentucky.
Thanks for reading all this. Hope you are well and cool.
July 17, 2006
Dear Margaret,
I’ve been out of town or would have answered your letter sooner. So,
I’ll attempt to answer your questions.
Yes, we knew that the names HANNAH and CHRISTIANA were on the deeds
in 1778. This was just another bit of evidence that Hannah Harding
was a wife of Michael Shively.
Just this past few days we became aware that Michael Shively owned
another piece of land. This land was on Georges Creek in Fayette
County, PA. In 1803, Michael and Jacob Shively from Green County
Kentucky gave power of attorney to William Kelso to sell that land.
We are following up with the researcher to see if she can go back
and find when Michael Shively bought that land.
So, Michael owned land in York County, PA, Berkely, WVA ( originally
Frederick Co, VA), Scotts Mill Run, Mononagalia and also Georges
Creek in Fayette, PA. We know when the York land was sold, also the
Berkely land in 1778, the Scotts Mill Run land was sold in 1792 to
Abraham Harding by John, son of Hannah and now we find the Georges
Creek land sold by sons Michael and Jacob, sons of Hannah. The three
sons of Hannah were listed as heirs of Michael Shively. What the
researcher needs to find is a will or probate inventory or something
regarding Michael Shively. This should definitely be the one piece
of primary evidence needed to prove all of this.
It appears Michael had three wives: 1) mother of Dorothea, born in
Maryland, 2) Christiana Kessler, mother of Christian, John, Jacob,
Henry and Phillip and 3) Hannah Harding, mother of John, Michael and
Jacob. It is strange that sons of this last marriage had the same
names as the children of the 2nd marriage, but they also may have
had middle names. I’m also including Philip as a son of Michael as
the DNA results from descendants of Philip match those other
descendants of Michael Shively.
I hope Catherine Monticue sent you the transcription of the
Revolutionary pension application of John, son of Michael and
Christiana, born 1749. I’ve mailed in a request to the Tennessee
State Archives to find the transfer of the land that John Shively
bought. We now know that this John bought Ocoee Indian land in
Tennessee around 1841 and 1842, Bradley County, Tennessee and there
are two deeds. We know nothing about this John and hopefully I can
find a wife and descendants. He was on the 1830 census and no later
census. But, we know he was alive in 1845 at age 95.
This John Shively was also involved in a law suit with Peter Light (Leight)
in Berkely, but I don’t have the details. However, if John Shively
owned land in Ocoee, Bradley County, Tennessee, there has to be a
will or probate inventory and action after he died or, a transfer of
land. If and when I get more information, I’ll make sure you get it.
I’m enclosing a printout of what I have on the Hardings. On page 2
is a map of the Baptist Churches in that area. The Hardings were
originally from New Jersey and were part of that primitive Baptist
group. They moved into Rhode Island to escape from the Church of
England. One of the sons, John Redstone Harding, moved his family to
Redstone area, Pennsylvania about 1762. I’m guessing that’s how he
got the nickname. To sum it up, one branch of the Harding family
moved to Redstone. From there they purchased more land. And all
eventually wound up in Kentucky.
You may be wondering why I’ve been looking at churches. I have had
good luck finding my ancestors through Church records. I was hoping
by checking out the possible religions of this group, I may find
more. Michael Shively was Lutheran and the rest of these folks were
far removed from established religions. But, I have to conclude that
by the time these folks got to Kentucky, they were either Baptist or
Methodist. We also have to consider that the Shively’s understood
and spoke German. Thus, even the grandchildren of Michael had to
have some knowledge of the language. But, that has not led me to
anything either.
You mentioned in your letter a Capt. Nicholas Shin’s Company of
Rangers. I’ve tried to find this man in my internet sources and can
find nothing. I’m enclosing an envelope. Please send me what you
have on the company of Rangers and I’ll track more of this down.
This is a clue which needs to be pursued.
The report I’m sending you is what is in my computer. No attempt has
been made to make sure it is acceptable English language. It’s just
a bunch of data. And, I have a feeling, you’ve seen most of this.
This report does show how Larry Dean is related. And Larry has been
the one stirring up the pot, determined to find his ancestors before
they came to Kentucky.
Thanks for reading all this. Hope you are well and cool.
1
Sorting out the Hardings
from the Hardins has been a monumental task for Robert
Shean Riley in his book,
Marc Hardouin ( Mark
Hardin I) and His Descendants. The following report used
his research. What the
following report will show
is Shively and Dean ancestry which goes back to John
“Redstone” Harding. John
was called this as he came
to Pennsylvania and settled near Redstone Fort.
Descendants of John
Redstone (Captain) Harding
Generation No. 1
1. John Redstone
(Captain)4 Harding (Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born 1717 in Warwick,
Rhode Island, and died
1783 in Pleasureville, Green County, Kentucky. He
married Sarah Mary Moss Bet. 1740 -
1745. She was born 1722,
and died in Pleasureville, Green County, Kentucky.
John was the son of
Captain Stephen Harding and Sarah Elizabeth Knight.
According to genealogies available, John was the only son who moved
west to the Redstone area of Pennsylvania about 1762. It
is also mentioned that the Hardings dropped the "g"
and the name became Hardin. This has been disputed. The
Hardin family, descended from French Huguenot, Marc
Harduoin, settled in Stafford County, Virginia in 1716.
Both Harding and Hardin families eventually were in the
same areas of Pennsylvania and Kentucky and
intermarried. This has caused great confusion in sorting out these two
families. Robert Shean Riley's book on these families
has done the sorting.
The Hardings were
Primitive Baptists. The Hardins were Church of England,
initially. During and after the Revolution, most patriots
no longer worshiped at the Anglican Church. Thus the
rise of Methodism and Baptist Churches in Kentucky
appeared after these families migrated out of
Pennsylvania and Virginia. The historian Veech has concluded that the
basic reason for the movement of the Hardings, Hardins
and their allied families was the laws that forbid slavery in
Pennsylvania. There was also the issue of taxation as
they were all being taxed to pay for the Revolution. They not only
fought in the Revolution and afterwards were expected to
pay for it.
It has been remarked that
after all the fighting and deprivation during the
Revolution and the Indian uprising had been resolved, these folks
chose to go to Kentucky to again fight the Indians and
put up with extreme hardships and take their slaves and money
with them.
The name is spelled Hardin
in these church records, but it's the Hardings.
Great Bethel:
I copied all the minutes
up to 1802. Basically, John Redstone Harding was an
early member. By April of 1775, he was questioning the doctrine
of "election" vs. "free will" and suspended, this went on
until he was excommunicated on July 18, 1777. He was also
accused of profane language at one of the meetings.
March 14, 1778, he requested to be admitted back That was
denied. Capt. John Harding wrote a letter in 1784 and
the clerk was to answer it. But don't know what was in the
letter.
15 Sep 1781, Abraham
Harding was baptized. his wife Sarah is received Sep 14,
1782. Sarah is baptized in Aug 1783 along with Mary Payne,
Samuel Payne, and Roberson. Mary Harding, wife of Thomas
is mentioned, Wades are mentioned. Also Jolley.
All of these are related to Hardings, one way or
another.
Dec 20 1783: " Taken under
consideration further it appears expedient for Stephen
Hardin to move his membership from the Forks of Cheat by
a letter. No object against it. Also received to
fellowship of this Church, Johnathan Paine being before baptized and
also Elizabeth Hardin." 2 3
What I like about this map
is that we can see just where these people lived.
Michael Shively was in the area.
Isaac Sutton was the
pastor of Great Bethel and mentioned as part of the
Association of Baptists and in the area are Forks of Cheat, Turkey
Foot, Mt. Moriah in George Creek, Goshen, Redstone and
so on. It also appears the Hardings had troubles in each of
these churches and representatives would be sent from
one church to another to make peace.
To some degree, there were
also problems with the Pitman Creek Church in Green
County, Kentucky.
While I'm reading these
church minutes, I remember there was a war going on and
most of the Hardings were involved in it, along with most of
the men in the area. Also, many of them had gone on to
Kentucky to explore and stake out land. Thus, the long list
of women members. And, maybe most men didn't attend
anyway.
Also, the constitution of
this church was based on the Regular Baptist Confession
of faith adopted by the Philadelphia Association in 1742 and
that form of church government and discipline. The
Hardings believed in baptism of emersion and laying on of hands and
brought their faith with them from New Jersey and Rhode
Island. John Redstone Harding would have had problems
with this group as he was from the Old School Baptists
from 1707 and Roger Williams and that group and they did
not believe that man had a free will to be saved, but
was elected and only those who were elected could be saved.
And, that is what the Baptists in early Pitman Creek
also believed. So, it's easy to see how election and
predestination go hand in hand.
Letter to Governor:
Author Hardin, John.
Title John Hardin,
Redstone, [to] Col. [William] Davies.
Publication May 20, 1782.
Material 2 p.
Gen. note Part of a
collection of letters and other documents received in
the Governor’s Office during the period June 29, 1776-Nov. 30, 1784.
Summary Re obtaining boats
for moving the stores down river.
Subject -Geographic
Virginia -- History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 -- Sources.
Genre/Form Letters.
Added Entry Davies,
William, Col.
Added Entry Virginia.
Governor’s Office. Letters received.
What I got from the Great
Bethel minutes is that Capt. John Redstone Harding
showed up at meetings, swearing and telling Rev. Isaac Sutton
that he was preaching heresy. He turns up in another
church's records. With all his faith, he had to belong to one of
them. His son, Abraham was a member of this church. His
son, Rev. Stephen became a member and they all went
to Kentucky anyway.
Children of John Harding
and Sarah Moss are:
2 i. Amy5 Harding. She
married George Dawson.
Notes for Amy Harding: Not
sure that Amy belongs here, but did find this listed on
ancestry.com. It is better to include
Amy as more evidence may appear later.
+ 3 ii. Hannah Harding,
born 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died in Perry
County, Indiana.
+ 4 iii. Mary Mollie
Harding, born November 05, 1747 in Elizabethtown, New
Jersey; died June 25, 1833 in Washington County, KY.
+ 5 iv. Robert Harding,
born 1748 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died 1821 in
Fayette County, Indiana.
+ 6 v. Stephen Harding,
born 1749 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died February
25, 1815 in Green County,
Kentucky.
4
+ 7 vi. John Harding, born
1753 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey.
+ 8 vii. Abraham Harding,
born September 17, 1754 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey;
died May 25, 1818 in Green
County, Kentucky.
+ 9 viii. Thomas R. S.
Harding, born January 08, 1756 in Elizabeth, New Jersey;
died June 20, 1840 in Rev.
War Vet, Green County,
Kentucky.
+ 10 ix. Eden Harding,
born 1758 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey; died January 04,
1846 in Marion County, Indiana.
Generation No. 2
3. Hannah5 Harding (John
Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born 1745 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey,
and died in Perry County, Indiana. She married (1)
Michael Scheifele Shively 1768, son of Progenitor Scheifele.
He was born Abt. 1717 in Germany, and died Abt. 1780 in
Berkeley County, Virginia or Scotts Mill Run. PA or
Georges Creek, PA. She married (2) Richard Dean 1780. He
was born Abt. 1750, and died
Aft. 1810 in Perry County,
Indiana.
Pitman Creek Primitive
Baptist Church Minutes, Green County, Kentucky:
Hannah Dean listed on
pages 1,5,12,21 as a member of the church. On Friday
April 1, 1803, Hannah requested a letter of dismission. This date
coincides with the Dean family moving to Breckenridge
County, KY and from there to Perry County, Indiana.
One of the ministers at
Pitman was John Mulkey. He separated from this group and
formed his own church. The Baptists at Pitman Creek
believe in Predestination. In the minutes, I'm finding
foot washing, meeting on Saturday and so on. So, I think Pitman
was a combination of several beliefs: Seventh-Day
Baptists, who worship on Saturday instead of Sunday; Primitive
Baptists, who conduct foot-washing ceremonies as part of
each celebration of the Lord's Supper; Free-Will (or Free)
Baptists, who stress man's freedom to choose salvation
or perdition; Predestination Baptists, who cling to Calvin's doctrine
of the double election; and many other varieties. What
is Calvin's doctrine? — earnest, austere, suspicious of the
comforts and pleasures of this world, fired with a great
sense of rectitude and a conviction
of their own "election" as
children of God.
Arrived In Port of
Philadelphia, Ship St. Andrew, arrived from Rotterdam 27
Oct 1738. Name spelled as Scheyvel, Michael, Qualifed 27 Oct
1738. This means he took the Oath of Allegiance to the
British Crown and can be considered a British colonist.
The Shively researchers
have copies of some deeds. Following is some of what we
have:
Land Records for Michael
Shively and Christian Shively (later of Louisville,
Jefferson Co, KY) of Falling Waters, Berkeley County, Virginia
in Berkley County Deed Books excepting one Frederick
County Land Grant
1. 1762, Michael Shively,
assignee of John and Daniel Kennedy 245 acres 11 Oct 1766 date of Grant
Frederick Co, VA Bk 2, Page 14
2. 20,21 Mar 1778 Michael
Shively and Hannah his wife to Christian Shively Lease and Release Bk 4, pp
453-455 100 acres of the above 245 acre tract
Note: here the
mention of Hannah Shively
3. 2-May-1778 Michael
Shively and Christina his wife to Joseph Mitchell
Leave Book 5, pages 23-24
145 acres of the 245 acre tract
(OK, now we are confused
because Michael's wife is Christina)
4. May 1778 Michael
Shively and Christina his wife to Mitchell Joseph
Release Book 5, pages
24-25
5. 15-Oct-1778 Christian
Shively to Mitchell Joseph
Lease Book 5, Page 583 100
acres purchased from Michael Shively and wife, Hannah
6. 16 Oct 1778 Christian
Shively and Mary his wife to Joseph Mitchell Release
Book 5, pages 584-585
5
View Record MICHL SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
NOTE: I've been reading
the REVOLUTIONARY War pages. I found a statement on one
pension document for Thomas Harding, brother of
Abraham.
"Abraham's widow, Sarah,
in 1832 testified that she lived 2 and ½ miles from the
junction of the Cheat and Monongalia Rivers. She
testified that the soldier Thomas Harding usually lived
at her house between his services.
She thought they lived in
PA. He began his services in 1777. " So, we now know
that the land in question or Scotts Mill Run was 21/2
miles from Cheat/Monongalia River Forks.
________________________________________
From Larry Shively:
You are doing very well.
Yes by 1810 my John Shively was deceased and his widow,
Susannah Hayden Shively, and married for a second time
to John Shepherd. Supposedly earlier researchers had
written to Fayette County to follow up on the Power of
Attorney concerning this land in Fayette County. It
appears that the Power of Attorney was
recorded in Fayette County
but no one has been able to find any further information
regarding this tract of land.
From the Monongalia
County, WV Deed Book 125, Page 178 we have a deed for my
John Shively who sold land to Abraham Harden which was
land that Michael Shively, deceased had owned. "This
indenture made the 15th day of March in the year one
thousand seven hundred and ninety-two between John
Shively of Nelson County and State of Virginia (later KY) of the
one part and Abraham Harden of Monongalia County and
state afsd of the other part.......
The land contined 302
acres by survey given to John Shively (more info
following)......Neighbors mentioned in this transaction include Thomas
Dawsons land on Scotts Mill Run....Abraham Harden......The "survey" mentioned was
given to John Shively on 8th day of July 1788 for 302
acres "unto John Shively heir at law of Michael Shively
deceased a certain tract or parcel of land containing
302 acres .....being in the county of Monongalia on Scot's Mill
run waters adjoining lands of Abram Harding and his
settlement made in 1774.........
From the sale of this land
I believe that my John Shively then purchased land in
Green County, KY for his brothers Jacob and Michael Shively.
In Green County Deed Book 3, Page 102 a record is made
that John Shively purchased 250 acres. John Shively
sold later 100 acres of this to Robert Hay. John gave
bond to Jacob Shively for the remaining 167 acres which
was then sold to Aaron DAWSON (interesting how the name
appears in KY and back in Monongalia County). Larry The following indicates
that Michael Shively also owned another section of land
on Georges Creek, Fayette, PA.
Larry Dean’s researcher is
trying to follow up on this, hoping it leads to a
probate record for Michael Shivey.
(July 2006, Kelly).
10 August 1803
Michael Shively & Jacob
Shively, heirs of Michael Shively, deceased, both of
green County, appoint William Kelso of Breckinridge County,
their power of atty to sell & transfer a tract in
Fayette County, Pennsylvania, on the waters of George's Creek.
Another transaction
involving Jacob and Michael Shively, 18 Jan, 1810. John
Shively, deceased.
URL (Click on link)
http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/GetLONN.pl?first=276&last=&g_p=GN&collection=NN
Grant
Title Shively, Michael.
Publication 11 October
1766.
Other Format Available on
microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels 288-311.
6
Note Location: Frederick
County.
Description: 245 acres at
the Yellow Springs on Potowmack River adjoining Danl
Kennedy.
Source: Northern Neck
Grants N, 1766, p. 276 (Reel 295).
Original survey exists.
Part of the index to
recorded copies of land grants issued by the agents of
the Fairfax Proprietary between 1690 and
1781 and by the
Commonwealth between 1786 and 1874. Original and
recorded surveys are also indexed when
available. The collection
is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.
Subject - Personal
Shively, Michael. grantee.
Kennedy, Danl.
Subject - Topical Land
titles -- Registration and transfer -- Virginia --
Frederick County
Subject -Geographic
Frederick County (Va.) -- History -- 18th century
Genre/Form Land grants --
Virginia -- Frederick County.
Surveys (land) -- Virginia
-- Frederick County.
Added Entry Northern Neck
Land Office. Northern Neck grants, 1690-1874.
Northern Neck Land Office.
Northern Neck surveys, 1697, 1722-1781.
Library of Virginia.
Archives.
System Number 000861212
The land in Berkely was a
grant from Lord Fairfax.
Thomas Fairfax, 6th Lord
Fairfax of Cameron, the friend and patron of George
Washington's early life, born in Leeds Castle, Kent, England,
1692; died at his seat at Greenway Court, Clarke County,
Virginia, December 12, 1781; son of Thomas Fairfax, 5th
Lord Fairfax of Cameron, and of Catharine, daughter of
Thomas Culpeper, 2nd Baron Culpeper of Thoresway. Various
place names in Northern Virginia are named after
him—most notably Fairfax County and Fairfax City.
Educated at Oriel College,
Oxford from 1710 to 1713, and afterwards held a
commission in the Blues. A contributor to Addison's Spectator.
Succeeding to the title and to the family estates in
Virginia, inherited from his mother, between the Rappahannock and
Potomac Rivers, and a great portion of the Shenandoah
Valley, he came to Virginia in 1735-1737 to inspect and
protect his lands. Returning in 1747 he first settled at
Belvoir ; later he moved to the Shenandoah Valley in 1752, fixing his
residence at Greenway Court, a few miles from
Winchester. Here he lived in a style of liberal hospitality, frequently
indulging in the diversion of the chase. He served as
county lieutenant and as justice of the peace.
Lord Fairfax was the only
resident peer in colonial America. In 1748, he made the
acquaintance of George Washington, then a youth
of 16, and, impressed with his energy and talents,
employed him to survey his lands lying west of the Blue Ridge.
Though a frank and avowed Loyalist, he was never
insulted or molested by the Whigs. His title and immense domain,
consisting of 5,282,000 acres (21,380 km²), descended to
his only surviving brother, Robert, 7th lord, who died at
Leeds Castle, England, in 1793; but, as the domain was
in possession of Lord Thomas during the American Revolution,
it was confiscated during the hostilites.
Preceded by: Thomas
Fairfax Lord Fairfax of Cameron
Succeeded by: Robert
Fairfax
Berkeley County is the
second oldest county in West Virginia. Created in 1772
from the northern third of Frederick County Virginia and named
for Norbourne Berkeley, (Baron Boutetort) Colonial
Governor of Virginia from 1768 to 1770.Martinsburg, the
county seat, was founded in 1778, by General Adam
Stephen who named it in honor of Colonel Thomas Bryan Martin, a
nephew of Lord Fairfax. It was incorporated by act of
the legislature By Robert B. Van Atta FOR THE TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, February 6, 2005.
Virtually all of Western
Pennsylvania was Westmoreland County when it was formed
in 1773 from Bedford County. However, the population
was so scattered that the distances involved did not
immediately result in the concern of large masses of people. Those
who lived here were more concerned with Indians, food
and shelter, and later the Revolution.
Washington County was the
first created from original Westmoreland, in 1781, to
include the area of Southwestern Pennsylvania south of the
Ohio River and west of the Monongahela. Washington's
formation came at a time when agitation was increasing
to form a new county in what became the Fayette area.
Many of the citizens of Westmoreland were in older communities
of Brownsville and Uniontown.
The state General
Assembly, on Sept. 26, 1783, passed an act in which the
preamble noted "the great inconvenience they (Fayette inhabitants)
labor under by reason of their distance from the seat of
judication (of Westmoreland) and which created a county
named and hereafter to be called Fayette County."
Five of Westmoreland's
early townships made up Fayette -- Tyrone, Springhill,
Menallen and parts of Donegal and Rostraver. The original
Fayette did not include any area east and northeast of
the Youghiogheny River, which was added by another act,
passed Feb. 17, 1784. The first term of Fayette's courts
was held the fourth Tuesday of December
1783 in the schoolhouse in
Uniontown.
One of the new county's
early problems was the rebelliousness of citizens of
Menallen Township and the Georges Creek area over taxes. On the
night of June 2, 1784, three men with pistols entered
the house of Springhill Township tax collector Phillip Jenkins,
beat him and took his tax records.
Indian influence Indians
figured conspicuously in Southwestern Pennsylvania
history from the time of the earliest settlement in the 1750s
until about 1794, when most troubles dropped off. Some
of their activities were peaceful, and many of the depredations
against the pioneers were inspired by the French and
later the British during and after the
Revolution.
A major positive note was
the signing of the Fort Stanwix treaty in the fall of
1768, in which the Indian confederation gave the Penns the land in
Southwestern Pennsylvania. This enabled the Penns to
open land offices in the spring of 1769 through which
settlers could acquire lands.
The Indian tribes or
nations most closely associated with Pennsylvania
history were the Delawares, and secondly the Shawnees. The Iroquois and
Senecas also were active at times, the Senecas most
notably in the British-inspired burning and destruction in 1782 of
Hanna's Town, the original Westmoreland County seat. The
Sewickley Indians were Shawnees.
Oddly enough, the Fayette
County area seemed to suffer appreciably less from
Indian problems than most adjoining ones, especially Greene
and northern Westmoreland. Kittanning in the 1750s was
still a Delaware Indian town, while the Shawnees had three
towns on the Allegheny and Kiskiminetas rivers,
including the later site of Springdale.
Punxsutawney was another
Indian town, named for a Shawnee chief. Indian paths were
forerunners of later pioneer trails and eventual
roadways. This was due at least in part to the fact that Indians, in forging
their paths, took rather direct routes, avoided water
and heavy underbrush, and stayed away from steep climbs where
possible.
Excerpted from Robert B.
Van Atta's "Vignettes" columns of Feb. 6, 1983 and 1994. Robert B. Van Atta retired
as history editor of the Tribune-Review in January 2004. Important Events in
Hampshire County during the 1700s and 1800s At that time, Lord Fairfax
realized that he had an opportunity to earn income by
laying off his land in the area into lots and requiring those
residing there to pay him for the land or to pay rent.
In 1748, Lord Fairfax sent a surveying party, led by James Genn
and including 16 year-old George Washington, to survey
his lands along the Potomac and South Branch Rivers.
Washington spent three summers and falls surveying Lord
Fairfax's estate, including present-day Hampshire County.
Washington's diary indicated that he was in present-day
Romney on October 19, 1749. Oral
traditions claimed that
Washington laid present-day Romney out into lots at that
time, but written records credit James Genn for surveying and
laying out the town.
Because he was a British
citizen, all of Lord Fairfax's land holdings were
confiscated by the state of Virginia at the close of the American
Revolutionary War (1776-1783). The state then auctioned
off the land. Between 1788 and 1810, a total of 1,986 land
entries were recorded in Hampshire County. As settlers
continued to enter the county, the state decided to build a state
road from Winchester to Romney, passing by Capon Bridge
and Hanging Rocks. The road's construction was a boom to
local economic development as several stage lines began
operations, providing settlers more ready access to eastern
markets. In 1796, a post office, headed by John Jack,
opened in Romney Call Number 35559
Author Smith, Margaret E.
Shively, comp.
Title Shively family
genealogical notes.
Publication Compiled in
1993-1997.
Material 6 leaves.
Summary Descendants of
John Michael Shively (Johann Michael Scheiffle) of
Germany, Pennsylvania, Berkeley County, Virginia, and
Kentucky. Includes information from Deeds, grants, and
patents.
Format Photocopies
Subject - Personal
Scheiffle, Johann Michael, progenitor
Shively, John Michael,
progenitor
Scheiffle family
Shively family
Genre/Form Deeds
Genealogies -- Germany
Genealogies -- Kentucky
Genealogies --
Pennsylvania
Genealogies -- West
Virginia -- Berkeley County
Land grants
Land grants
Series Genealogical notes
collection; 35559
System Number 000493711
Next appeared the long
overdue St. Andrew, commanded by the favorite ship
captain of the Germans, John Stedman. Several letters of
passengers on some of his previous five runs between
Rotterdam and Philadelphia were full of praise for him. This time, on a
voyage that lasted twelve weeks, almost 120 passengers
had died before reaching port on October 29th. The same
day, Lloyd Zachary and Thomas Bond, two physicians
recruited by the authorities to tighten the inspection of the
incoming Palatine ships, presented this report to the
colonial council:
"We have carefully
examined the State of Health of the Mariners and
Passengers on board the Ship St. Andrew, Captain Steadman, from
Rotterdam, and found a great number labouring under a
malignant, eruptive fever, and are of the opinion, they
cannot, for some time, be landed in town without the
danger of infecting the inhabitants."
It was the last emigrant
transport that John Stedman ever commanded. After his
return to Europe, he settled down in Rotterdam in the shipping
business. There was disbelief in the German community
that such fate could have befallen a ship led by a Stedman.
The Send-Schreiben expressed the reaction as follows:
"The two Stedmans, who had
so far been renowned for the transfer of Germans and
wanted to keep this reputation, also had to suffer the
plight this time, one of them lost near 120 before
landfall, although he had a party of the Hope's roughest and sturdiest
folks, who had to succumb to sickness and fear of death.
And the other one lost probably five sixths,
of 300 hardly 60 were
left. His mates and some of his sailors he lost and he
himself lay near death." to be continued This article is derived
from the same material used in a longer article, "The
Emigration Season of 1738 – Year of the Destroying Angels," which
appeared in The Report, A Journal of German-American
History, volume 40, published by the Society of the
History of the Germans in Maryland, 1986. The ninety-six
references in that article are not given here.
Pennsylvania Rifles
A major factor in the
success of the volunteer Continental Army against a
superior professional army during the Revolutionary War was the
Pennsylvania rifle and the men who had become expert in
its use. The technique for making longrifles came to
America in the early 18th century when immigrants from
Germany and Switzerland poured into Pennsylvania. Among
these people were gunsmiths who brought their special
trade and art with them. The
decorative designs used by
an artisan clearly distinguished his product from
others. In Lancaster a well-known gunsmith was John Graeff.
By the time the French & Indian War broke out, the
American version of the longrifle had evolved and was in use in
the Appalachian Piedmont from Eastern Pennsylvania
through Maryland, the Valley of
Virginia, and into the
Carolinas. Pioneers in the Kentucky region of Western
Virginia used the rifles to great advantage and their guns became to
be known as "Kentucky Rifles."
The spiral grooves
--rifling-- inside the long four-foot long barrels of
the guns gave the lead shot a spin as it left the muzzle, causing it to go
longer and straighter than projectiles from the
alternative, smooth bore muskets. At the time of the Revolutionary War,
the flintlock was still in use to ignite the powder.
General Washington knew that the Scotch-Irish and German
frontiersmen were excellent shots with their longrifles
when he called for rifle companies from
Pennsylvania, Maryland and
Western Virginia. They brought with them what we would
now call "a technological advantage" over the
British forces he was preparing to engage.
CHRONICLES OF THE
Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA EXTRACTED FROM THE
ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY
1745-1800
CIRCUIT COURT RECORDS,
SECTION "I."
JUDGMENTS.
page 82
Marshall vs. Hunter--O. S.
43; N. S. 15--Bill filed 22d June, 1799. Fairfax had set
aside 800 acres for himself which he contemplated giving to
a certain ---- Beal (?), but Beal removed out of
Berkeley (Frederick). Fairfax devised it to Denny Martin, who conveyed
to James M. and John Marshall and others by deed
recorded in General Court. The Commonwealth confirmed to
purchasers the lands set apart by Lord Fairfax to his
own use. Philip Pendleton and David Hunter are in possession
of the tract by a treasury warrant, and the parties
leave the controversy to the Court. Copy of survey, 1775, for John
Ullam of Berkeley County, of a tract lying something
more than one mile and three-fourths from the Potomac and adjoining
lands of Thomas Adams. Col. John Carlyle, Michael
Shively. Copy of survey 1775, for
tract adjoining old patent
of John Van Meter on drains of Opecon in Berkeley County
formerly surveyed for Robert Beal. Copy of survey 1775,
for Morrice Gibbons of Berkeley County. Copy of grant by
Fairfax to John Owlent, in 1753.
Copy of grant by Fairfax
to Cap. Richard Pearis, in 1763. Thomas Rutherford
deposes at house of Thomas Flagg, in Charles Town, that from
1752-1763 he was surveyor for Fairfax. Beall returned to
England whence he came, and there died. Robert Stephen
deposes that after 1768 he was a rent collector for
Fairfax. William Rush deposes (1802) that for
30 years he has lived on a
tract joining the land in controversy. He is thirty-five
years old. Richard Morgan deposes (25th September, 1802)
aged 41 years, that he was born within one and
one-fourth miles of the land in controversy, and has lived there ever
since. His father was Jacob Morgan. John McCool of the
society of Friends deposes. Peter Light, Senr., deposes.
Robert Cockburn deposes. Copy of deed dated 20th
February, 1784, Saml. Oldham and Anne of Berkeley County, to
Moses Hunter, a tract on drains of Opeckon, conveyed to
Samuel by John Linden (Snider) by deed 11th and 12th
September, 1772. Cor. Moses Keywood, Cor. Cap. Richard
Pearis, cor. John Newland, 150 acres.
Recorded in Berkeley 23d
April, 1784. Letter from Richard Rigg to Jacob Morgan,
dated 26th July, 1777. Sims Index to Land Grants
in West Virginia Monongalia County. NOTE HARDING
SOMETIMES DROPPED THE G. It is difficult to
figure out which family these belonged to. However,
ABRAHAM was a HARDING.
Harden, John Jr. 1,000
Cove Run 1783 1 59
Harden, Mark
10
909 Wts. Lit. Kanawha 1785
2 159
Harding Abraham
400 Scott’s Mill Run 1784
1 167
Hardin, John
400 Lit. Sandy Creek 1787
3 205
Hardin, John Jr.
400 Cove Run 1783 1 48
Hardin, John Jr.
400 Cove Run 1783 1 47
Hardin, John Jr.
400 Cove Run 1783 1 49
Hardin, John Jr.
208 3 Forks Creek 1783 3
374
Hardin, Martin
341 Raccoon Creek 1788 3
504
Harding, Daniel
1,000 Wts. Lit. Kanawha
1786 2 382
Harding, Daniel
2,000 Wts. Lit. Kanawha
1786 2 381
Harding, Daniel (or
Harting) 3,000 Reedy Creek 1785 2 380
Harding, Stephen
196 1/2 Scott’s Run 1795 4
466
Shiveley-Shively-also
Shrively
Shively, Philip
374 ½ Adj. Wm. Watkins
1819 6 198
Shively, John
302 Scott’s Milburn Wts.
1788 4 3
Shively, Michael*
2 Scott’s Run 1859 7 267
Shively, Philip
341 3/4 Scott’s Mill Run
1784
Shrively, Michael* 2
Scott’s Run 1859 7 267
these two appear to be a
duplication with a different spelling
View Record DANL. SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772
View Record DANL. SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772
View Record MICHL SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1772
View Record DANIEL SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record DANIEL SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1776
View Record DANL. SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
View Record DANL. SHIVELY
VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
View Record MICHAEL
SHIVELY VA Berkeley County Rent Rolls 1777
Children of Hannah Harding
and Michael Shively are:
+ 11 i. John6 Shively,
born 1768 died Abt. 1807.
+ 12 ii. Jacob Shively,
born 1772 in Pennsylvania; died Abt. 1851 in Taylor
County, Kentucky.
+ 13 iii. Michael Shively,
born 1770.
Children of Hannah Harding
and Richard Dean are:
+ 14 i. William6 Dean,
born Abt. 1782 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette,
Pennsylvania; died Abt. 1830 in Perry County, Indiana.
15 ii. Stephen Dean, born
1786 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette, Pennsylvania. He
married Susannah Springer August 10, 1815
in Perry County, Indiana; born 1784 in Maryland.
Notes for Stephen Dean: NARA. Stephen Deen, on 10
Jan 1815, put down a deposit of $80, receipt # 2390 for
land in Perry County, recorded in
Vincennes land office, 160 acres. SE18 4S 1W. This land
was bought on credit.
16 iii. Richard Dean, born
1788 in Scotts Mill Run, Fayette, Pennsylvania; died
Aft. 1855 in Perry County, Indiana. He married Mary
Dawson June 20, 1805 in Jos. Smith Minister, Mouth of
Wolf Creek, Hardin County, Kentucky; born 1788 in
Bedford County, Virginia; died Aft. 1855 in Perry
County, Indiana.
4. Mary Mollie5 Harding
(John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born November 05, 1747 in
Elizabethtown, New Jersey, and died June 25, 1833 in
Washington County, KY. She married John C. Jack Hardin 1769
in Monongalia County, Virginia, son of John Hardin and
Native American Unknown. He was born March 08, 1751/52
in Frederick County, Virginia, and died March 27, 1818
in Washington County,
Kentucky.
NOTE: THIS MARRIAGE OF
MARY HARDING TO JACK HARDIN IS THE BEGINNING OF THE
CONFUSION BETWEEN HARDING WITH A “G”
AND HARDIN
Information as per
Patricia Jo Miller website (
http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/palmond/miller.htm )
Accessed March 2000
John "Jack" Hardin was the
natural son of Captain John Hardin (from Bible Record),
but was illegitimate, therefore not the son of Capt.
John's wife, Isabella Strawbridge Hardin. There has been
some speculation "Jack" was the result of a relationship with a
Native American, but was raised with the rest of his
family in the Hardin home. Considering their close proximity to
the Native American peoples, it is not an impossible
thought. Birth, marriage and death
dates are reported from a Family Bible.
From "Hardin U.S.A. by
James Oran Hardin comes a nice summary of the Hardin
History that he got from American Monthly Magazine, Vol 3,
July-December, 1893. It is a publication of the
Daughters of the American Revolution. Even though we know the Hardin
lineage farther back than John "Jack" Hardin; Jack and
Molly had such an extraordinary life it is felt this is
the place for the history to be told.
Based on the above
article, a Reverend Mr. Abner Morse in his Genealogical
Register of the descendants of several ancient Puritans, Hardin
is a Gothic word from extremely early Europe. Apparently
it was present as early as 1060 in the Domesday Book and
possibly earlier.
The article from The
American Monthly Magazine was written about a Mrs. Ellen
Hardin Walworth, a founder of the DAR, who had to
authenticate her ancestry. As was the case with Robert
A. Hardin of Oklahoma, she traced Jack to "Ruffle Shirt" Martin
Hardin of Virginia, brother to our Major John Hardin and
great-uncle to our Jack Hardin of this story. There is an entire
story about Ruffle Shirt Martin, but for our purposes we
will focus on the Hardins that left Virginia and went on to
Kentucky. It is story enough.
Another book "History of
the Hardin Family in the Early Settling of Kentucky, by
Jack Hardin Jr., published 1915, by Baptist World Publishing
Company, Louisville, KY has been called a "treasure" and
should be required reading for all Hardin and Harding
descendants with an interest in this family.
Even the introduction to
the book speaks to the character of the people contained
within. It was by Thomas J. Hardin who said, "I am several
generations removed from the author...who was
exceedingly anxious that the daring acts and brave deeds of Hardin(g)s
be perpetuated...and finding no other member of the
family willing, did it himself even
though he was in delicate
health and passed away shortly after he finished the
manuscript." It was about 30 years after it was written before it
was published, again because of lack of interest on the
part of family members. It is apparently by good luck we have it at
all!
Thomas J. Hardin expressed that he felt "it was
best to publish the manuscript in the
style in which it was
written". Once again J. Oran Hardin,
family historian, tackled the job of trying to condense
the book which is actually several stories woven together.
The following is taken liberally from that fine effort.
Jack and his wife, Mary,
"Molly" Harding Hardin had a tragic but fascinating life
together. They were part of the group nicknamed "The Monongahela
Bunch" because they left Virginia into western
Pennsylvania, where they went down the Monongahela River to
the Ohio River to Kentucky on rafts. Jack and Molly
lived for a few years in the Monongahela River country
and started a family. In 1780 they became embroiled in a
fatal, yet heroic incident. This
has become a family legend
passed down from one generation to the next.
When Virginia opened the
new lands of Kentucky to claims and settlement in 1779,
Jack Hardin planned that he and his family would seek
their fortunes there at the first opportunity. He, his
wife Mary, and two young sons were then living in the
Cheat/Monongahela River area of southwestern
Pennsylvania. Early in 1780 there appeared in the Fort Redstone area a man named
Reynolds with his family, from Maryland, intending to go
to Kentucky. Reynolds arranged for two flatboats to be
built at the Redstone Boatyard, a large one for
livestock and a smaller one for living quarters for families.
As Reynolds needed several
additional hands, Jack signed on as did Mary's brother,
Thomas Harding, and Jack's uncle, "Big Bill" Hardin, both
unmarried but experienced woodsmen. There were also
three other families name Malotte, Robertson and Shively. A
third boat with the families of John Thickston and John
Pringle joined and completed the convoy, on the theory that
there was safety in numbers.
In early March, despite
inclement weather, the women and children and household
effects were loaded into the smaller boat, the livestock into
the large one, and the little flotilla started down the
Monongahela River. Each boat had an oarsmen and a steersman to
keep it generally in midstream and clear of
obstructions; but due to the labor of handling
the large boat and of
tending to the livestock, most of the men usually were
on it.
Everything went well for over two weeks, down the
Monongahela, past Fort Pitt, and on down the Ohio to a
little east of present Portsmouth, Ohio and the mouth of the Scioto
River, where they were headed for "The Falls". There, on
the morning of March 20th, disaster
struck.
Accounts vary; one relates
that gusty winds pushed the small boat dangerously close
to the Ohio shore; another tells that two white men (who
turned out to be renegades) appeared on the shore
appealing for help to escape from Indians, and the small boat started
in to investigate. In any event, a heavy volley of
gunfire came from a large number of Indians
hidden in ambush along the
Ohio shore, aimed at both of the Reynolds boats; which
killed the oarsmen and some of the passengers in the
family boat, leaving it helpless. The Indians rushed
into the water and drew the small boat to shore, where they
ruthlessly killed and mutilated any men or older boys
still alive, and several more women and children; then
systematically looted the boat's cargo. They whooped
with glee as they ripped open feather mattresses and let the wind carry
clouds of feathers far out over the water.
Then they
herded their captives - the Mallot family, Mrs. Robertson, Mary
Hardin and little son Robert, and several others ashore
and headed north toward their camps on the Scioto River.
Mangled bodies of the dead left on the family boat
included the oarsmen, the entire Reynolds family, Mrs. Shively and
her child, the two Robertson boys, and little Stephen
Hardin.
Meantime, on the larger
stock boat, two men were killed and several critically
wounded by the initial volleys. After securing their boat near
the Kentucky shore, several men in a canoe attempted to
reach the family boat, but after suffering two more
casualties, decided that a counterattack was foolhardy.
The men, only a few of who were unwounded, were reduced to
watching helplessly as the Indians looted the family
boat, and marched what remained
of the families off into
the woods. When the Indians had gone, a party crossed
the river and surveyed the horrible scene on the small boat. The
dead were buried. Jack and Mr. Robertson sat by the
graves of their loved ones and wouldn't move. It was Mr. Shively
who took them both by the hand and pulled them away.
That is when they made the "oath or covenant" to fight
Indians until death. The boat was moored in the middle
of the river for the night.
The next morning Jack and
"Little" John Hardin followed the Indian's trail for
about 30 miles. They found a young child that had been
killed, left on the ground and they buried it. Later
Mary Hardin said it was killed for crying. Little John and Jack returned to
the river getting there at daybreak the next morning and
it was concluded that immediate rescue of the captives was
impossible, so the survivors proceeded on down the Ohio
to the Falls to recover from their wounds, and to organize a
rescue party.
In April 1780, Jack, Little John, Thomas
Harding and Robertson disguised as Indians, set out to
search for the women and children and take them from the
Indians. They followed the trail until evidence indicated that
the Indians had split taking captives with each group.
Jack and Thomas followed one trail and Little John and Robertson
followed the other The trail led Jack and
Thomas to a large village which they scouted from across
the Scioto River from the top of a tree. They identified Mary and
Robert and noted in which tent they stayed. There were
perhaps a hundred Indian men in the village. At midnight,
the two men crept into the center of the village unseen
until a dog barked waking the Indians and a big fight ensued in
which the two men had to "cut" their way out with Thomas
Harding being shot in the thigh.
Somehow they escaped
leaving the Indians fighting each other in the dark.
Their disguises had worked causing the Indians to think other
Indians were prowling around in their camp. Jack and
Thomas got a canoe, went far downstream, and found a
hiding place for Thomas to recuperate from his wound. The other two men had many
encounters with Indians and returned to the Falls later
than Jack and Thomas with many trinkets etc. causing
people at the Falls to laugh at their "get up". At that
time, General George Rogers Clark came to
the Falls to enlist an
army to deal with the Indians who were becoming quite
active raiding parties on their way down the Ohio River. The Hardin
men agreed to help if they could go "out front" as
scouts which they did as part of Kenton's Scouts. Clark managed to
set some villages afire, but the Indians only moved
farther north into settlements first on the
Miami and then on the
Sandusky River. Clark was eventually forced to retreat
to the Falls.
At that time, more Hardins
were arriving and the search for the missing women and
children was resumed. William Hardin (Indian Bill) and
Little John teamed up to go up the Miami River and even
into Indiana. They were a real "gung ho" team. Indian Bill was
described as six feet four inches tall, dark complexion,
dark hair, big Roman nose, all lean and 240 pounds. He had a
big rifle which was too heavy for an ordinary man. He
was a crack shot and threatened to
break the gun if he
missed. The two, Little John and Bill both fleet on foot
as runners, with Bill's rifle with it's longer range, gave them
advantages which resulted in the saving of their scalps
many times. They would fire, run off in a circle reloading as they
ran, and shoot again, causing Indians to think they were
surrounded by an army!
Thus, Molly Hardin began a
year and a half of captivity as a slave of the Indians.
During the next few days the prisoners were marched to
Indian settlements further north in Ohio; Molly to a
village on the Scioto River near were Chillicothe now stands,
while Mrs. Robertson was in a village on the Little
Miami. Molly had to carry little Robert on her back most of the way.
Prisoner's food was limited to scraps and offal. They
were exposed to the weather, without
adequate clothing or
protection. They were treated with contempt and cruelty
by the men, although some of the women of the tribe grudgingly
began to respect Molly for her courage, and to take
better care of her.
One of the worst ordeals
was "running the gauntlet". Indian braves lined up in
two rows, then prisoners were forced to run between them, with
the Indians hitting the runner with sticks or clubs as
she scurried by. Molly endured this several times, acquiring
scars she bore the rest of her life; but the last time,
with little Robert crying "Run, Mommy, run!", she went so quickly
that she was untouched and was never subjected to the
gauntlet again.
At another time, for some
reason, not now known, she was to be burned at the
stake, or otherwise killed. Two tribal women (now friends) hid
her under a large fallen log, covered with dead leaves,
for several days until the Chief changed his mind.
It was at the Sandusky
Indian camp Molly and Mrs. Robertson were reunited, and
Molly's daughter, Mary, was born. It was here also that
another unsuccessful rescue attempt resulted in the
capture of Mr. Shively by the Indians, who ceremoniously burned him
at the stake while the prisoners were forced to watch. With a baby and a small
son to care for, in addition to the menial tasks she was
required to perform, Molly led a miserable existence.
Eventually in November 1781 some Frenchmen in Montreal
arranged ransom for the prisoners,
who were then taken to
Quebec until arrangements could be made to return them
to their homes. Molly with her two children arrived in
Philadelphia in February 1782, and back home on the
Monongahela shortly after that. Jack was still in Kentucky, so it took a
few more weeks for him to receive the good news and make
his way back to Pennsylvania.
On May 19, 1783, just
about a year after their reunion, our ancestor, Hannah
Hardin was born in Washington Co., KY. Jack and Molly went on to
have several more children as well.
The Indian troubles
continued for many years and in 1792 Col. John Hardin
went into Ohio on a mission of peace and was murdered by the
Indians at the present place called Hardin, OH, which is
named for him. This left the settlement at Pleasant Run very low
in morale for the next year or so. One year, they hardly
had the will to even make crops, wanting to kill Indians
instead. When Jack Hardin arrived with his family, he
was destitute and sick with an illness.
Col. John Hardin claimed a
tract of land for him in the midst of the Hardins. Jack
was thrown in the brig by General Clark for bushwhacking an
Indian on his way to a peace pow-wow at the Falls.
Jack's friend Mordecia Lincoln (uncle of Abraham Lincoln), for
whom Jack later named a son, faked a drunk act so Jack's
kin could spring him out. That's when Jack fled twenty
miles southwest of Louisville and found the good land.
Jack had no horse to pull a plough, so he and Mordecia Lincoln,
crossed the Ohio River one night and "requisitioned"
three horses from Indians. One black mare became the mother of
some the best Kentucky racing stock today. Within a few
years the Hardins became well off, many of them owning
slaves and had built nice large homes. The older men
enjoyed life with their horse racing
and socializing.
The Jack Hardin book
doesn't even begin to cover the many acts of courage and
bravery and outstanding accomplishments of these
very great people. As Jack said, "If anyone knew of
people anywhere that were braver, he wished they would tell him
about them" It is a comment in courage and devotion that
Jack and Molly together, could have faced such an
inhumane separation and still come back together and
raise their family to adulthood. It is a lasting tribute, indeed.
Marriage 1 Mary Harding b:
5 NOV 1747
Children
Stephen Hardin b: 7 MAR
1775 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania
Robert Hardin b: 6 MAY
1776 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania
Lewis Hardin b: 30 SEP
1778 in Fayette Co., Pennsylvania
Mary Hardin b: 22 OCT 1780
in Indian Camp in Ohio
Hannah Hardin b: 19 MAY
1783 in Washington Co., Kentucky
Nancy Hardin b: 4 DEC 1785
in Washington Co., Kentucky
Elizabeth Hardin b: 8 JAN
1788 in Washington Co., Kentucky
Mordecai Hardin b: 5 MAR
1792 in Washington Co., Kentucky
Children of Mary Harding
and John Hardin are:
17 i. Lewis6 Hardin, born
1773 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died January 02,
1780 in Fayette
County, Pennsylvania.
18 ii. Stephen Hardin,
born March 07, 1775 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died
March 20, 1780 in
Killed by Indians, ambush
on Ohio River.
15
+ 19 iii. Robert Hardin,
born May 06, 1776 in Monongalia County, Virginia; died
March 10, 1840 in
Meade County, Kentucky.
20 iv. Mary Hardin, born
October 29, 1780 in Miami Indian camp during captivity,
Ohio; died Aft. June
05, 1837 in Two Miles from
Flint Island, Meade County, Kentucky. She married
Cuthbert Harrison January 12, 1804
in Washington County,
Kentucky; born 1746 in Virginia; died June 01, 1837 in
Two Miles from Flint Island, Meade
County, Kentucky.
+ 21 v. Hannah Hardin,
born May 19, 1783 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania; died
August 28, 1815 in Childbirth,
Crawford County, Indiana.
22 vi. Nancy Hardin, born
December 04, 1785 in Washington County, KY; died
September 03, 1838 in Perry
County, Indiana. She
married John Stephenson February 02, 1807 in Washington
County, Kentucky; born January
17, 1777; died December
25, 1862 in Perry County, Indiana.
23 vii. Elizabeth Hardin,
born January 08, 1788 in Washington County, KY; died
October 25, 1795 in Washington County, KY.
+ 24 viii. Mordecai
Hardin, born November 18, 1795 in Washington County,
Kentucky; died March 21, 1870.
5. Robert5 Harding (John
Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born 1748 in Elizabethtown, New Jersey,
and died 1821 in Fayette County, Indiana. He married
Mary Martha "Patsy" Wade in Pennsylvania, daughter of
John Wade. She was born December 18, 1765.
Robert was excused from
militia service in Washington County, KY in 1793 for age
and infirmity which usually occurred at age 45. He
died at the home of his son Ede in Fayette Co., Indiana.
He was a soldier in the REV War as were also four of his
brothers: Abraham, Thos, Stephen and probably John. He and his brother Abraham
were listed as distillers in Springhill Township,
Fayette Co., PA in 1786. It appears Robert did not
move to Green County with his brothers, but stayed in
Washington Co. About 1808 he moved
to Butler Co., Ohio, then
later to Indiana.
Child of Robert Harding
and Mary Wade is:
25 i. Ede6 Harding.
6. Stephen5 Harding (John
Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born 1749 in
Elizabethtown, New Jersey,
and died February 25, 1815 in Green County, Kentucky. He
married Elizabeth NLN.
She died Aft. 1815 in
Kentucky.
Will Records of Green
County, Kentucky 1796-1824
Green County Wills Book
OSPage: 140 Name: Stephen Hardin
(Spelled Hardin and
Harding in will) Written: 25 February 1815 My wife,
Elizabeth My sons: Asa, Stephen, John C., and Abraham My daughters:
Margaret, Prudence, Elizabeth, Mary, and Rebecca My
grand-daughters: Elizabeth, Nancy, and Susannah Hoves
Witnesses: Lewis Webb and Aaron Harding Probated: 25
March 1816 Harding,
Stephen:Additional military information: Private, Capt.
Abel Mason's co., Col. Jonathan Holman's regt.; from
10 Dec to 28 Dec 1776;
company stationed at Providence, R. I. Ref. MA01
Monongalia County,
Virginia:
1. Deed Book A., Page 251.
April 1796 -- Stephen Harding of State of Kentucky sells
by his attorney Abraham Harding 196 1/2 acres on Scotts
Mill Run in Monongalia County, Virginia, to John Downer
for 20 pounds; land adjoins that claim by Abraham Hardin;
record May 1796.
GREAT BETHEL (UNIONTOWN.
PA) (1770)
The Great Bethel
(Uniontown) Church was the first church of any faith
organized in western Pennsylvania. It was constituted on November 7,
1770, at the home of John Sutton, a native of New
Jersey, by Elder Henry Crosbye. Isaac Sutton was licensed the
next day, and soon became the first pastor. There were
six charter members, viz.: Jacob Vanmeter, Richard Hall,
Jeremiah Blackford, Sarah Hall, Rachel Sutton, and
Leticia Vanmeter.
Another early minister who
labored in this area, under deep affliction, was Elder
John Corbly, whose wife and five children were massacred
(by Indians) as they were going on foot to their place
of worship, 1782. He himself had been imprisoned in Virginia for
preaching the gospel. He died in 1803. When the Redstone
Association was organized at Goshen Church in Greene
Co., Pa., on October 7, 1776, Great Bethel Church was one of the
founding members. Prior to this time, Great Bethel
Church was a member of the Ketocton Association of Virginia.
SURNAMES OF MEMBERS OF
GREAT BETHEL:
Anderson, Baccus,
Blackford, Boltinghouse, Bowell, Carr, Davis, Drago,
Gaddis, Griffith, Hall, Hardin, Heady, Jenkins, Littell, McCoy,
Morgan, Murphy, Osborne, Pierce, Reed, Sutton, Thomas,
Truax, Vanmeter (very incomplete list, but the records
exist and we hope to add more names soon).
MOUNT MORIAH (GEORGE'S
CREEK)(1784)
Mount Moriah Church was
originally an arm of Great Bethel Church. On October 30,
1784, it was constituted with twenty-seven members,
viz., William Wells, Rebecca Wells, Joseph Thomas, Jane
Jenkins, Owen Davis, Hannah Davis, Joseph Brown, Abigail
Brown, David Morgan, Robert Hannah, Ann Griffin,
Jeremiah Becks, Dinah Becks, Thomas Bowell, Ann Bowell,
Richard Reed, Sarah Reed, Ann Coombs, Eliza Carr, Eliza
Ashcraft, Sarah Hardin, Joshua Pane, Balthahazer Drago,
Margaret Wood, Philip Jenkins, Jesse Coombs, and Abraham
Hardin. The church united with the Redstone Association in
September 1785.
Pastors of this church
until the time of the trouble over missions, included
Elders James Sutton, Samuel Woodbridge, George Guthrie, John
Corbly, David Loofborough, Benjamin Stone, James Estep,
John Patton, and James Frey.
Fayette County Genealogy
Project
1. Monthly Meeting Minutes
1784-1797 Mount Moriah Church
Transcribed by Carole
Clarke & Beverly Sellers-Niel
June 11,1785:
Received. Abram Harden by
Letter, Received. Ann Combes by Letter from Connolway
Church Br. Joseph Thomas & Robert Hannah appointed to
site Br. David Morgan to the next meeting.
May 13, 1786: a Charge Brought Against
Negro Phill that he attempted to goe to Bed to Harden's
Wench. Messenger [s] sent to Examin into it, Bro. Wells
Philip Jenkins and Woodbridge.
Aug 12, 1786: Br. Abrm.
Hardin Requests a Dismission for himself and wife to
join another Church of the same order his Request granted and
Recorder ordered to Draw and sign a letter in Behalf of
the Church.
Monthly meeting February
9th 1788
1. By a Request the Church
Grants Sarah Harden a letter of Dismission
18
Monthly Meeting Oct: 10th
1789 . Proceeded to Business a letter of Dismission to
Sarah Hardin one was sent Before
But it seems she did not
Receive it.
MONTHLY MEETING SEPTEMBER
13 1794
To Enquire into the Case
of Brother Abraham Hardin concerning his being accused
with having a child by one Hannah Williams After
Discoursing a while on the Subject and Not having
Sufficient Evidence present, concluded to postpone a final Decision
of the Matter until our Meeting of Business in November.
When the evidences are to be present. Like wise it was
Concluded that our Brethren David Morgan and Thos.
Bowell are to go over where Harden
lives and enquire into the
matter before the time appointed to Settle it and Mr.
Woodbridge concluded to act as an Assistant with them in
making the enquiry.
MONTHLY MEETING NOVEMBER
8TH-1794
Being Opened by Brother
Woodbridge proceeded to Business This Church agreed to
Recommend it to brother Abraham Hardin to Apply to Some
magistrate in the Neighborhood
Where he and Hannah
Williams lives and Obtain all the testimony before a
committee Nominated by the magistrate and then bring said Hannah
Williams to hear her Accusers face to face before sd
Magistrate and said Committee to Report in writing their
Opinion on the Subject to this Church
MONTHLY MEETING NOVEMBER 7
1795
Opened by Singing and
prayer Brother Stone Moderator
Concluded to Send a letter
to Brother Abraham Hardin to desire him to come to our
Next Meeting of business to inform
the Church what he had
done in the affair the Church has against him which
appears by the Minutes of November 8-
1794 that Request he has
not yet Complied with and if he does not Comply with the
Request the Church must proceed
against him. Brother
Sutton to write to him in behalf of the Church. ( page
31, 32)
MONTHLY MEETING JANUARY 9
- 1796
Opened by Singing and
prayer.
Then Proceeded to consider
of the case of Abraham Harden there being but a few of
us together concluded to Postpone
it till our Next meeting.
MONTHLY MEETING FEBRUARY
13 1796
Opened by Singing and
prayer
Proceeded to Enquire into
the affair of Abraham Hardin he being present and
Produced the Quoliafications of Several
persons who had heard the
sd Hannah Williams which Swore a child to sd Hardin say
that she had wronged him and
that if it was to do again
she would not Do it for all the world. Upon which the
Church Dismissed the sd Hardin and
his wife.
PITMAN CREEK PRIMITIVE
CHURCH, Green County, KY.
Abraham also dissatisfied
at times with this church. He is mentioned on pages 15,
19, 22, 24, 30, 37, 42, 49, 50, 52,
53, 55, 56, 58, 59, 73,
76, 77, 79, 192, 198, 199, 201.
Children of Abraham
Harding and Sarah Moore are:
43 i. Hannah6 Harding,
born April 19, 1778 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area
border PA and VA.
She married James Dawson
January 30, 1804 in Green County, Kentucky.
44 ii. Aaron Harding, born
April 07, 1780 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border PA
and VA. He married Hannah Hollett October 20,
1806 in Washington County, Kentucky.
45 iii. Ruhamah Harding,
born December 30, 1781 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area
border PA and VA. She married John Rice; born
December 05, 1781 in Buckingham County, Virginia.
Will Records of Green
County, Kentucky 1796-1824
Green County Wills Book ??
OSPage: 126
Name: John Rice
Written: 23 March 1815 My
wife, Laruhany Caruhany Rice, a third My children
Witnesses:
Aaron and Samuel Harding
Probated: 25 September 1815
46 iv. Mary Harding, born
November 04, 1783 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border
PA and VA. She married Rueben Ball May
08, 1801 in Green County, Kentucky.
+ 47 v. Lavina Harding,
born September 19, 1785 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area
border PA and VA.
48 vi. Sarah Harding, born
February 08, 1787 in Cheat/Monongahela River Area border
PA and VA; died 1875.
She married David Anderson
Rice March 26, 1806 in Green County, Kentucky; born
December 27, 1783 in Buckingham County,
Virginia.
Will Records of Green
County, Kentucky 1796-1824
Green County Wills Book 2
OSPage: 1
Name: David Rice
Written: 20 March 1816 My
son, Benjamin ... land bounded on the east by William
Wilcoxen,
on the south by John
Sandridge, on the west by Harvey's Survey My daughter,
Mary ... money
from Martin Mitchell of
Warren County My sons: James H., Jonathan A., David, and
William My
daughters: Elisabeth
Maccoun, Chalia Trotter, and Susannah A ___ (torn ...
land in Warren
County My daughter,
Frances Mitchell Witnesses: Benjamin Rice, John
Sandridge, Nancy Rice,
and James H. Rice
Probated: 22 July 1816
9. Thomas R. S.5 Harding
(John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born
January 08, 1756 in
Elizabeth, New Jersey, and died June 20, 1840 in Rev.
War Vet, Green County, Kentucky. He
married Sarah Payne
February 05, 1784 in Fayette County, Pennsylvania,
daughter of Jonathan Payne. She was born
December 18, 1765, and
died Aft. 1844.
Notes for Thomas R. S.
Harding:
Granson, Jack Harding said
Thomas Harding and his family moved to the Cheat River
when Thomas was 9 years old
or 1767.
Children of Thomas Harding
and Sarah Payne are:
+ 49 i. Amy6 Harding, born
December 27, 1794 in Washington County, Kentucky; died
1860.
+ 50 ii. John ( Rev )
Harding, born January 26, 1785 in Green County,
Kentucky; died November 11, 1854
in Greensburg, Kentucky.
51 iii. Samuel ( Rev)
Harding, born December 05, 1787 in Green County,
Kentucky. He married Ann
Shipp; born February 19,
1792 in Green County, Kentucky; died January 04, 1864 in
Johnson, Indiana.
3 sep 1814: Minutes of
Pitman Creek Baptist Church: " The church agress to
grant a license unto
Brethren James Ship and
Samual Harding to preach the gospel anywhere God in
Providenc may
call them."
3 Dec 1814: "Brother
Samuel Harding to have a letter of dismissial in full
fellowship."
52 iv. Rebecca Harding,
born May 26, 1790. She married Hezekiah Puryear.
Notes for Rebecca Harding:
6 March 1813: Minutes of
Pitman Creek Baptist Church, Green County, KY " Mrs.
Rebeccah
Puryear came forward and
was received by experience. Baptized on 7 March 1813.
+ 53 v. Sarah Sally
Harding, born July 29, 1792.
54 vi. Noah Harding, born
August 28, 1797. He married Lucinda Rogers.
55 vii. Ruhama Harding,
born February 18, 1799. She married Nathaniel Reed.
56 viii. Payne Harding,
born February 08, 1802. He married Matilda Reed.
20
57 ix. Aaron Harding, born
February 20, 1805. He married (1) Margaret Campbell. He
married (2) Sallie
Callender.
10. Eden5 Harding (John
Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3, Abraham2,
Stephen1) was born 1758 in
Elizabethtown, New Jersey,
and died January 04, 1846 in Marion County, Indiana. He
married Dorcas Cooper 1782.
Children of Eden Harding
and Dorcas Cooper are:
58 i. David6 Harding, born
Abt. 1784.
59 ii. John Harding, born
1786.
60 iii. Robert Harding,
born 1790.
61 iv. Noah Harding, born
1792.
62 v. Dorcas Ann Harding,
born 1798.
63 vi. Solomon Harding,
born 1800 in Kentucky. He married Susan Taylor April 27,
1829 in Jefferson
County, Kentucky.
64 vii. Jesse Harding,
born January 13, 1803; died February 23, 1893 in Iowa.
He married Hannah Byrkit 1828
in Marion County, Indiana.
Generation No. 3
11. John6 Shively (Hannah5
Harding, John Redstone (Captain)4, Stephen "Captain"3,
Abraham2, Stephen1)
was born 1770, and died
Abt. 1807. He married Susannah Hayden October 10, 1794
in Washington County,
Kentucky, daughter of
William Hayden and Susannah Buckman. She was born
October 10, 1774 in St Mary's
County, Maryland.
Notes for John Shively:
The more I think about it,
what we need to find which may answer all of questions
and the only thing that may be
findable is the will of
Michael Shively or the probate packet. (Kelly)
If our thesis is correct,
Michael Shively had two families. It appears that the
Berkely property was given to Christian,
son of the first wife.
And, the second and third parcel to children of his
second marriage to Hannah.
My guess is he died at the
Scott Mill Run property about 1778. Or, it could have
been Georges Creek. So, rather than go all
over the place looking for this and that, let's focus on
just this one thing. Finding a will or probate packet. This will make it
easier for the researcher. It looks like Scotts Mill
Run was finally deeded to Michael Shively in 1774 and
then the probate settled 8 July 1788 and then another
transaction 15 Mar 1792. In 1792, the land was sold to
Abraham Harding who was living next door.
My guess is the researcher
will look for the latest transaction which should
contain information of previous transactions on this land. And finally
find something in probate court.
From the Monongalia
County,, WV Deed Book 125, Page 178 we have a deed for
my John Shively who sold land to Abraham Harden which
was land that Michael Shively, deceased had owned. "This
indenture made the 15th day of March in the year one
thousand seven hundred and ninety-two between John
Shively of Nelson County and State of Virginia (later KY) of
the one part and Abraham Harden of Monongalia County and
state afsd of the other part.......
The land contined 302
acres by survey given to John Shively (more info
following)......Neighbors mentioned in this transaction include Thomas
Dawsons land on Scotts Mill Run....Abraham Harden......The "survey" mentioned was
given to John Shively on 8th day of July 1788 for 302
acres "unto John Shively heir at law of Michael Shively
deceased a certain tract or parcel of land containing
302 acres .....being in the county of Monongalia on Scot's Mill
run waters adjoining lands of Abram Harding and his
settlement made in 1774.........
Then there is this entry.
10 August 1803
Michael Shively & Jacob
Shively, heirs of Michael Shively, deceased, both of
green County, appoint William Kelso of Breckinridge County,
their power of atty to sell & transfer a tract in
Fayette County, Pennsylvania, on the waters of George's Creek. THUS,
MICHAEL SHIVELY OWNED ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
Another transaction
involving Jacob and Michael Shively, 18 Jan, 1810. John
Shively, deceased. So the father of the 3 boys was Michael and
lived on George's Creek, Fayette Co. PA.
From Larry Shively: I have
something else I hope you will find interesting. My John Shively bought
lots in Hardinsburgh, Breckenridge County, KY in 1803!!! Breckenridge Co, KY Deed
Book B, Page 36..... This indenture made this twenty
eighth day of October one thousand eight hundred and
three between William Kelso of Breckenridge Co and State
of KY of the one part and John Shiveley of Hardin
County State aforesaid of the other part......sell unto
John Shively six lots in the town of Hardinsburgh namely two
inn lots the one number fifteen and the other number
twenty nine as will appear by the plan of said town. The out lots
as follows, to wit, Number fifteen containing five acres
and twenty five poles, Number
twenty nine containing
five acres and twenty poles, Number thirty two
containing five acres and twenty five poles, number fourteen containing
four acres three rods and five poles as will appear by
the plan of said town. I have always thought John
Shively and Susannah Hayden Shively moved to
Breckenridge Co because some of the family of Susannah had
moved there. Now I have additional things to think about
knowing that the Deans were there also. I have been to the
Breckenridge County courthouse before but just didn't
find very much information. Of course at that time I was
focusing on the Shively's. If I could have only had the
whole picture in mind! Larry
On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:23
PM, MBPKelly@aol.com wrote:
Yes, Richard Dean was
found on 1792 Tax list in Pitman Creek. We also found where he
sold that land in 1797 and also wound up in court over
that sale and was subpoenaed from
Breckenridge County in
1803. It appears Richard Dean was caught up in the mess
over proving the land was his to begin with and survey
problems. Now Larry Dean has found,
for the first time, Hannah Dean on a Pitman Baptist
Church list and also some reference
to the Great Bethel
Baptist Church in Fayette Co. PA. Also on that church
list were the Harding brothers. And, Shivelys there also. So,
what we've accomplished is to find the clusters of
Shively, Harding and Dean in Pitman Creek, Green County KY and also
references back to Fayette, PA. Now we need to get some
proof and it will have to be church records as it
appears nothing else exists as PA didn't require
registration of marriages until long after these folks left PA.
June 30, 2006. Just talked
to guy at NARA. In 1807 John Shively put down a deposit
at the Vincennes land office and must have died shortly
after. John Shively put down a deposit on the land, but
the patent was never issued to him. The patent was issued to
Jonathan Boone, exeter twp. Harrison County. This became
Crawford County.
in Green County, Kentucky.
Abraham Harding Author:
Jeremy Johnson Date: 29 Jun 2000 12:00 PM GMT
Surnames: Harding, Colvin,
Allen Classification: Obituary
Campbellsville, October 5,
1891
I feel it a duty I owe
myself and the family of the deceased to chronicle
something of the long and peaceful life and quiet
death of Abraham Harding Sr., who departed this life on
the 3rd day of October, 1891 at his home
near this place at the age of 75 years.
He was the son of Abel
Harding and his mother was a sister of Robert and
Henderson Colvin who were well and favorably
known throughout this county. He was also a grandson of
John Harding, who was a brother to
Thomas, Stephen and Abraham Harding. The said Thomas
Harding was the father of the Rev. John
Harding, the old and able divine who lived and did such
successful work among our people; also the
father of Hon. Aaron Harding, the renowned Kentucky
lawyer and statesmen.
The deceased, Abraham
Harding leaves a widow whose maiden name was Keziah
Allen, daughter of Samuel Allen, with whom
he had spent nearly fifty years of his life. They had
lived a long and happy life together, each
clinging to and supporting the other with all the
fervency of loving souls and fulfilling the grave
and salutary vows entered into at their marital altar.
He lived to see twelve children reach their years
of maturity, six of whom survive him and six have long
since gone to meet their God in the
untried Beyond.
Mr. Harding was a man of
strong and striking native intellect, honesty, sobriety,
industry,
decision of character and
greatest of all, was a Christian. He had been a
consistent member of the Baptist church for many
years. He did not wait until awakened by the foot-steps
of that messenger, Death, whose approach he
could not resist, but in the years of his strength and
manhood he sought this blessed pardon.
I have known him for the
last seventeen years; some of his younger children were
my pupils in school when I first
started in life. Intellect, industry and determination
are the leading
characteristics of the
whole family. And I say to you, widowed wife and
fatherless children, do not mourn like those who
have no hope, but look up, through your sorrows, to the
source from which all strength comes,
and entertain the happy thought, that it is your blessed
privilege to meet him, after awhile, where
sorrows, afflictions and partings are and ever will be,
eternal strangers, where, by the grace of
God, we hope to meet you. H. C. W.
I've had access to the Revolutionary Pension applications through
Heritage Quest. If a vet or his spouse were alive and applied for
the pension in 1832, they will be listed.
I've found some, such as Thomas Harding and Eden Harding and others
and have been able to determine that just about all of the Hardings,
Hardins, Shivelys and most like the Deans were involved in the
Revolution but as minutemen or rangers. None of these were entitled
to a paycheck or bounty land and I'm finding that they were under
the command of Shinn and Gaddes and others.
And, they were in Westmoreland, Georges Creek for the most part at
that time. They would be called out to chase Indians and in some
cases small units of British soldiers. The British soldiers who were
captured were marched to Lancaster, PA.
There are lists of Rangers who served in the Revolution but not
available on the internet.
I asked Margaret Smith to send me the information she has on Shinn's
Rangers.
Just wanted to update you on this.
Amelia
July 24, 2006
Legacy Books
Larry Dean
3019 Kaye Lawn Dr.
Louisville, KY 40220
Dear Larry:
Greetings. Thank you for inviting me to be a part of your Dean and
Shively research once again. I have been trying to locate the
Georges Creek property records beyond 1803. I have not been able to
come up with an earlier deed. I searched for a reference from the
following resources without locating the Dean or Shively surname:
Two Lists of Early Residents in South Western Pennsylvania Those
Holding Virginia Grants 1779-1785 & Signers of a Petition to Form a
New State Compiled by Helen L. Harriss, CG., This source included a
great map illustrating the boundary controversy between PA & VA. Old
Springhill by Emma Dean Anderson, (no index), 1938, Sheriff's Deed
Books 1785-, Continuance Dockets from the Office of the Prothonotary
1783-, Records of West Augusta & Yohogania County prepared under the
direction of the Uniontown Public Library 1936, (John Snively
listed). I searched Pennsylvania Marriages prior to 1790.Marriages
were not recorded early on in the Fayette County Courthouse. Some PA
marriages are published in the Second Series of the Pa Archives
Harrisburg Volume II.
A search was conducted of Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary
War Pension Files Vol. I: A-E Abstracted by Virgil D. White.
Westmoreland Co. Pa. in 1783
compiled by Shirley McQuIlis copyright 1983 by SW Genealogical
Services lists Benjamin Dean Richard Dean, Christopher, John and
Phillip Shively as early inhabitants there. As I mentioned, I have
located references to Scott's Mill Run and I have copies of early
maps to send to you. References will be from The Monongalia Story, A
Bicentennial History by Earl L. Core, McClain Printing Co. Parsons,
West Va. Westward of Ye Laurel Hills 1750-1850 by Helen Vogt, 1976
has a sketch of a watermark concerning Jacob Shively estate sale
bill for May 26, 1760. Court records at West Virginia University
Library in Morgantown.
The 1772 Tax Assessment Rolls Taxes Due to Bedford County By
Residents of Westmoreland County, which was Separated From Bedford
County in 1773 including Territory which later became Fayette County
in 1783 part of Springhill, Tyrone and in 1784 part of Rostraver,
Springhill Twp. page 48 lists John Shively.
The 1798 Direct Tax List or Window Tax List of Fayette County, Pa,
micro-film roll 23 Second Assessment of the District Vols. 697-702,
National Archives Roll 372-23 Washington 1962. Lists John Shively in
a log cabbin 20 by 26 feet, and a John Dean is listed as an occupant
of a log cabbin and Sally Simpson is the owner.
The Index to Fayette Wills by Bob and Mary Closson, (you may have
this information) Dean, Caleb 1842
Edward 1898
John 1849
John 1842
Martha 1888
Zadvek? 1890.
John Shively was the Tax Assessor in Springhill Twp. Fayette County
during the 1819s into the 1820s. I will follow up on tracing back
his property records and the acquisition of the property. He was
also a farmer. I am also sending you the Index to the Colonial
Records compiled by Dr. Mary Dunn. The index lists Deans as well as
Shivelys. I have searched numerous unpublished sources in the
Pennsylvania Room hoping to locate Revolutionary War references. I
will continue to check for County records for you.
Once again, thank you.
Sincerely,
Vicki J. Leonelli
She IS searching for Michael Shively's will or probate or property
inventory. That is the key to this whole Dean Search.
The 3 sons of his marriage to Hannah were small boys when he died.
At some point, these boys were established as the heirs of Michael
Shively.
These are the documents Vicki is searching for and also searching
for Richard Dean in the process.
Once Vicki has searched all she has available to her, then the next
search is the parent county of Fayette, which was Westmoreland, then
the parent of Westmoreland and so on. The property on Georges Creek
may be the diamond we are looking for.
if the PA search yields nothing, then it's Mononagalia and then
Maryland. At least we have narrowed down the time frame: 1778-1783
ish in the search for Michael
Since there was so much movement of county and state borders, it may
take several researchers to find anything.
But, there is so much information in the Pennsylvania State
Archives, Lord knows where this will lead to.
I have send a request to the Tennessee State Archives to follow up
on John Shively, b. 1749. I'm hoping that the property he owned
will show a transfer and that might be his daughter and her family.
We can narrow that down to 1841-1850.
Vicki has also found other things on John Shively and this may be
the same person. She found an assessment of a John Shively's
property, listing a log cabin and the size and so on. But he was
renting this property.
Since Larry is bound and determined to find the Dean/Hannah/Shively
connection, this may take some time.
I wrote Margaret Smith asking for more information on the roster of
Capt. Nicholas Shinn's company of Rangers. We know a Henry Shively
and a couple Hardings were in that company. But, we need to look at
the entire roster and see if there are any more family members.
So, Michael Shively's death, will, probate are the key to all of
this. Or, that is the way I see it.
I found that the Redstone Baptist Minutes in Persi and they are on
file in Allen County, Indiana library. I've written for those. I
expect to find John Redstone Harding, the father of Hannah in those
minutes and just maybe they will reveal more information. These
minutes go back to 1760s when the Hardings came to Redstone.
I guess we just have to keep following the clues and see where they
take us.
Amelia
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